Quote: Fatwa on 06/27/2012, 10:06 PM

This post encompasses both election cycles we've had thus far, not just the most recent. From my conversation with Persephonee, there was no campaigning done for the first election cycle.

Fatwa, You and I have never had a discussion. If we would have, I would have told you that we did campaign in the first election. No we didn't spam lfg constantly but we did talk to smaller guilds to garner support and we also helped out people to kill bams.

By running for Vanarch and keeping every shop up and a tax at 1% Rising Phoenix is giving back to the community. New players to the game coming into lumbertown for the first time will pay less for the skills and goods then those who have been here pre Vanarchs did and I am proud of that fact. Our guild spends a fair amount of time farming vanarch points and as such our shops are open through this cycle with zero down time. We should have enough quest items to turn in and cover the next cycle if elected before the election is even over as well. (Damm those large guilds doing nothing)

We have made no money as of yet as vanarchs. When I register today and spend 3k more for Vanarch we will have spent 9k and earned a total of 7k in taxes. We have not even recouped our cost yet. We are still running because we have the numbers as a large guild to manage the area for the good of the community. Illuminus our ally runs events at a 3% tax and they get killed for the tax rate and at thier last event which they advertised on the forum I believe less then 20 people showed up. (Fatwa's says these events are vital right?), yet they held it and handed out considerable gold prizes and probably used some of thier own gold and not tax money in doing so.

Would you rather see an area like lumbertown run a 5% tax putting the prices pre Vanarch and host a weekly event or have the lowest possible tax rate? I for one think the greater benefit are the lowest possible prices on goods for new players.

Our alliance has three guilds approaching Vanarch diffrently then eachother because each one is doing what they think is best for the server in thier region and not what thier allies, or Fatwa thinks...... Each one is keepin thier shops open with no down time and a tax at no more then 3%. (Damm those large alliances destroying the server)

I will not bow to what Fatwa thinks I should be doing as a vanarch. I will leave that for the server to decide as a whole because unlike Fatwa I do believe all of your votes do count..........

My god Fatwa, are you singlehandedly going to try to save the political system?

I specifically said they are currently not vital, because the voting power of your alliance makes them worthless, which is why I suggested - for the overall health of the server - people work to make them vital by adjusting their alliances for a multitude of positive reasons.

While I appreciate you clarify, it might be helpful to wait on the soapboxing until you get your answer.

I know you don't like me, nor trust me, and are immediately at odds with most everything I say. You've done this from the moment we began communicating. At least take the time to read the thread, and absorb the information, before attempting to use it as reelection platform.

Quote: devthehero on 06/29/2012, 09:57 AM

My god Fatwa, are you singlehandedly going to try to save the political system?

You left. I told you I wouldn't. I committed to giving it my all, and that's what I'm doing. If these guilds choose to slowly wring the neck of BC, I'll be here at the end waving a big fat, "TOLD YOU SO" sign. They're afraid to stand on their own two feet, and unwilling to explore options that would resolve part of the reason they - and the rest of the server - bleeds members.

So the game losing people has nothing to do with the lack of content? Do you think the people leaving the server has to do with the "Mega" alliance?

Quote: Fatwa on 06/29/2012, 10:00 AM

I specifically said they are currently not vital, because the voting power of your alliance makes them worthless, which is why I suggested - for the overall health of the server - people work to make them vital by adjusting their alliances for a multitude of positive reasons.

While I appreciate you clarify, it might be helpful to wait on the soapboxing until you get your answer.

I know you don't like me, nor trust me, and are immediately at odds with most everything I say. You've done this from the moment we began communicating. At least take the time to read the thread, and absorb the information, before attempting to use it as reelection platform.

If 60% of the server is contained within the "Mega"alliances that you said. Then wouldnt the best for the server be with the guilds within the mega alliance?

You know, if the bigger guilds didnt run for a cycle and allowed the smaller guilds to run the server and they couldnt maintain the zones, how would that make the details of your thread?

Quote: Gabija on 06/29/2012, 10:12 AM

So the game losing people has nothing to do with the lack of content? Do you think the people leaving the server has to do with the "Mega" alliance?

It's not a lack of content as much as it's the RNG aspect of it - instead of being rewarded properly for the work put in you grind the same stuff over and over with nothing but an empty wallet to show for it when many of us would rather be PvPing instead of grinding PvE. It's also the horrible unfun Nexus events. But it's at least for me, largely a lack of PvP. The occasional GvG is the only real PvP I saw (outside of guild DMs). This game needs more OwPvP. It should be constant, small battles out in the high level zones. But if 60% of the server is in an alliance you've promised not to attack, that kills a lot of PvP. It also leaves out the rest of the server - their votes and opinions don't matter because you don't need them, no one will care about any events they try to put on because they don't need them for anything, and if they try to PvP then 60% of the server is allied to come zerg them down. It's like being in a faction game when you're the smaller of the two factions. No one liked being an Asmo in Aion. :P

Quite a number of guilds that I've spoken with have indicated they've lost members or their entire guild to a lack of OWPvP/Diverse Politics on Basilisk Crag.