-Game Bug- Alliance Monster Cap reset x2 per day.

BigBangImpact Profile Options #1

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I am pretty sure that the alliance system wasn't meant to be or at least wasn't made to be a monster farm fest since the system itself is based mostly on players doing Player vs. Player fights rather than Player vs. Environment fights. And with this in mind, here i am posting about a glitch that is being abused every day by the ones that are going for the exarch spot ( obviously, i am tired myself to see glitchers that have no alliance activity becoming exarchs when other hard working and active players are left behind because the glitch itself can offer up to 300extra points per day besides the normal cap - as a side note, our current 1st from my server is abusing this glitch every day to stay ahead ).


The whole idea about it is to cap as soon as possible right after the monster cap resets at 12am PST when pvp is off by killing normal monsters then not do any alliance quests at all and wait until the cap resets itself randomly throughout the day when pvp goes on ( which i am pretty sure that its a glitch since it resets randomly ). and then do the alliance quests when pvp is on and cap once more on bams.

Or do the monster cap as soon as possible at pvp off when it resets at 12am PST by killing normal monsters then do the gathering quests at pvp on and then wait until pvp is on again to do the bam quests and get another cap on bams from a random reset.

There are days when this glitch occurs and there are days when this glitch doesn't occur at all.

As i said, everything is random and so far this is all the data that i have managed to collect ( either from talking with others that experienced this or just by getting this accidentally when playing too much when not being able to sleep from killing normal monsters to do cap/quests then later on helping friends with bams for membranes at pvp on ). And I suspect that the glitch itself has something to do with the normal monsters being killed first at pvp off then bams being killed at pvp on.. with or without a quest.


This is why the system is broken and this is how some players manage to have an exaggerated amount of points compared to all the others, when everyone thinks that they actually trade keys or pvp kills ( it seems that they cap twice per day on monsters while most of the players cap only once because they are not aware of the glitch and they just play normally ).


p.s. for the sake of the alliance system, please try to fix this glitch one way or another
p.p.s. if you want to catch up on glitchers then go at the alliance areas right after 12am PST and see who is farming 300 normal monsters for the first cap of the day
Edited by: BigBangImpact over 4 years ago
Jenieve Profile Options #2

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You cant call people glitchers if it resets for everyone .. which is does. Also as someone whose been heavy into alliance patch all of the current exarchs have been in battle consistently in any of our raids. (Aegis vs the server :P).

Although my personal opinion if it is going to reset twice it should be during the day, NA server, NA resets. (team husher needs sleep) ..posting at 4 am

Furthermore almost all of the points come from pve (questing) and only a small fraction (prob 25%) come from pvp although some of our raids have afforded us 100-250 points each pvp time, but only when the other sides are willing to fight.
Edited by: Jenieve over 4 years ago
BigBangImpact Profile Options #3

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I have called them "glitchers" because they are using this exploit on purpose to gain an unfair advantage over the other participants that are either unaware of this bug or just don't want to become exarchs/commanders by glitching their way through.

And as a result wise: my best day of pvp gave me around 100assists from raiding and another 70 keys from defending solo over 4-5hours of pvp - while on the other side, i had a fellow alliance member that planned from the start to use the glitch to rise in the alliance ranks, so he eventually managed to surpass me with roughly 130pts at the end of the day. What was even more interesting was that he didn't even bother to pvp at all, he just used the glitch for a straight bonus of 300pts and that was all of it.

I also thought that it might be a coincidence and that maybe he did a lot of pvp during that day, but the next day everything repeated again ( besides the fact that i got less points from pvp for slacking xD ) as in him jumping with another straight 300pts ahead of others. In other words, this guy doesn't even care about the alliance pvp, he just wants to get the assault commander rank for the "lulz".


About the exarch situation, our current exarch managed to surpass the legitimate exarch by using this glitch.. and our current 1st ranked player is also using the same glitch to stay ahead of the other legitimate participants at a comfortable 1k+ distance.


p.s. I have been an assault commander for the past three weeks, but from the next season i will be a defense commander... for obvious reasons ( i have also learned to not take this too seriously and just play some other games as well )
p.p.s there is no Aegis at our Alliance
Edited by: BigBangImpact over 4 years ago
BigBangImpact Profile Options #4

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I am sorry for bringing up this again but is there any news about this bug? I was saying earlier that the legitimate players are barely getting the defensive commander position but now it seems that those players are now afraid that they might not even get Echelon 1 at the next season reset because more and more players are willing to gain ranks with this new found bug- And our server is now heading more into the direction of a monster cap farm fest than alliance PvP.

I was also reading today the Ktera patch notes to make sure that i didn't miss anything about the contribution points changes and this is what i have found as the latest:

~~Players will be able to earn contribution points by killing monsters in the Alliance territory. (Maximum contribution earned by killing monsters is limited to 300 points per day)~~

While on NA the players are getting either 600points or 900points depending on how much they manage to reset the monster cap per day.


p.s. the monster cap could be disabled until the bug is fixed
Edited by: BigBangImpact over 4 years ago
Minority Profile Options #5

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Jenieve on 01/04/2014, 03:10 AM - view
You cant call people glitchers if it resets for everyone .. which is does. Also as someone whose been heavy into alliance patch all of the current exarchs have been in battle consistently in any of our raids. (Aegis vs the server :P).


This is not true. It doesn't reset for everyone. Some people get the reset others don't. It's random. If it was a reset available to everyone I wouldn't have a problem with it.

According to the GM that responded to my ticket, they aren't even aware of this bug. He stated they were aware but he referred me to a thread of known issues but it's not in their list and there is 22 pages to sort through to see if some one mentioned it... They won't do anything even if you aren't getting a fair shot at killing extra mobs along with others. Another RNG mechanic.

As far as I can tell it resets at 11PM.
BigBangImpact Profile Options #6

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Minority on 01/07/2014, 10:52 PM - view
This is not true. It doesn't reset for everyone. Some people get the reset others don't. It's random. If it was a reset available to everyone I wouldn't have a problem with it.


So far, most of the players that tried this on my server got the reset ( i know about ten+ on my server ). And i have also noticed that it resets at 11PM PST after seeing the guys that monopolized our exarch spot going to farm for it.

I also didnt knew that the GMs arent aware of it, but i guess that they cant do much about it for now since any player can get it accidentally so you cant really blame anyone for getting the extra points, and the bug itself is still something hard to figure out to be able to fix it - but i still suspect the nexus hours interfering with the pvp hours and thus causing an unintended bug ( at least i've spend the last 3 weeks testing constantly without being able to get anything relevant out of it ).

It happens, it is there, but it is also completely random ( heard even about x4 reset at thursday xD ).
Edited by: BigBangImpact over 4 years ago
Aliila Profile Options #7

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Thank you guys so much for all the info. We are currently investigating this, so the more info the better and with lots of details if you can! Really appreciate all the help :)
BigBangImpact Profile Options #8

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I think that something happened in the last few days ( did someone fix anything? ) because the ranking page seems to be so much more stable than it was before. What i mean to say is that i no longer see the 1st ranked player being at 1k+ ahead from 2nd rank and 1.5k+ from 3rd rank .. or at 2.5k+ from 10th. Now i see the 1st player being at 50 points ahead from 2nd ( which is me of course xD ) and 100pts ahead from 3rd rank.. or 500pts away from 10th.

I am looking forward to get back the assault commander rank ( you don't exist at alliance pvp without the op aura ... )


And I am also happy to see that our next exarch/commanders are all active and legitimate -> we ended up with the exarch and 3 assault commanders inactive because they were all pve friends that got the ranks for fun by using the monster cap bug > obviously, they were intending to put a monopoly on the exarch/commander spots by having their guild members taking turns for the spots > they already had 2 guild members as exarchs and a 3rd was on his way.. until the bug was fixed? and he fell behind on points.



p.s. thanks for the quick fix?
p.p.s the new battleground is fun
Minority Profile Options #9

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As far as I can tell they didn't fix anything. I didn't get the reset again this week. Sucks to be the only one on the server that appears to have this bug. Didn't even know about this reset until Saturday 01/04/14 as we were finishing up our regular 300 at the end of the day and rarely play past 11PM PST when we realized the kills were never ending. No one discusses this reset as they don't seem to want the masses to know.

My Point Total Gained from mobs

6am - 11pm PST/11pm - 6am PST
1/4/2013 Sat 300 points/300 points
1/5/2013 Sun 300 points/300 points
1/6/2013 Mon NO POINTS GAINED/300 points
Season Reset
1/7/2013 Tue 300 points/300 points
1/8/2013 Wed 300 points/300 points
1/9/2013 Thu NO POINTS GAINED/300 points

Friends Total Gained from mobs

6am - 11pm PST/11pm - 6am PST
1/4/2013 Sat 300 points/300 points
1/5/2013 Sun 300 points/300 points
1/6/2013 Mon 300 points/300 points
Season Reset
1/7/2013 Tue 300 points/300 points
1/8/2013 Wed 300 points/300 points
1/9/2013 Thu 300 points/TBD
Edited by: Minority over 4 years ago
BigBangImpact Profile Options #10

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Yeah, scratch what i have said above. Guess it was too good to be true for anything to be fixed.

The guy that was going for exarch from the abusive guild just jumped 600pts ( he was at 11th and now he is 1st ) when everyone was capped. It is great to see myself with over 300 pvp assists and 100 keys defended being surpassed by a guy that uses the monster cap bug because.. yeah it was not fixed. He is not active at pvp and he isnt defending extractors either. He just casually comes online and surpasses everyone.

What bothers me even more is that he has a friend which also jumps randomly ( i have noticed this earlier but i thought that it's just a coincidence ), so my chances to get back the assault commander rank are somewhere around .. better forget it.

It is also great to see a single guild monopolizing the exarch position because of a game bug.


p.s. i didnt get any x2 this season because i usually sleep when the other reset happens

Edited by: BigBangImpact over 4 years ago