Grim... chill please. Abriael has been supportive of active Vanarchs. I think several things were taken out of context on both sides. Let's drop this debate over nothing and focus on stuff that actually matters - like electing Vanarchs who will participate and be active in the community, be able to handle the job, and not fail/give up like so many did in the first cycle. Arguing semantics over WHY someone wants to be Vanarch is pointless.... we each have our own reasons and those don't truly matter as long as the person does their job.

Let's calm this thread down with ribbons.... You like ribbons right?

Sorry, I dont respond well to people who try dropping in and insulting my views then redacting their demeanor with coyness and faux-intellect as if they didn't provoke the situation. If your initial instinct is to act like that, you can go blow turtles. You don't get respect in return. But I digress, poking trolls is fun sometimes, so I'm partially to blame. :)

Quote: dokuganryu on 06/20/2012, 11:11 AM

It sounds like the vanarchies currently should come together and perhaps figure something out. I honestly don't see a big problem in raising the taxes so long as its reasonable. I mean, the vanarch's themself have to gain something from it. And I have a feeling as it was stated earlier, that a lot of people aren't even going to notice whether or not taxes have been raised.

When your alkahest bill suddenly goes from 240 gold to 255 you notice, especially when you're already rfacepalming because of 30 failed attempts that put you in a flat broke condition. The unfortunate fact of this game is that everyone will pass under that yoke sooner or later.

The vanarchs themselves do gain something from it. It's just not gold.

Okay... well that's enough of all that then. Abriael is a good guy and a good tank.... I don't think he meant any harm, but things got out of hand. It happens. Group hug and back on topic.

Then isn't that moot point for going to a different area to buy certain things etc. For example why not have more frequently visited places higher taxes--and if you want to buy your [filtered] at a lower rate then you need to travel your [filtered] somewhere to like Seeliewood to get it. I don't see what's so bad about utilizing the system itself to get us users to actually think about what we are doing--because honestly it seems like everyone is just taking vanarch's and the position for granted.

I didn't miss that part at all, but saying that for you the sky is yellow with green polka dots doesn't make it so. I'd say that the inherent value of publicity and advertisement is rather objective. It has little to do with opinion. You may not personally care about it, but the fact that it does indeed have a value is undeniable.

There's some merit in that, but the balance to strike is very delicate, especially considering how cheap and quick travel is in this game. For this term Loli's been getting all my enchanting money because of how easy it is to move around. When I need to buy alkahest I just pull out a popolion scroll and go there.

Ultimately I can see the vanarchs of provinces including Fane and Balder's temple raising their taxes a point or two and still remaining competitive, but going overboard will allow more business minded vanarchs from other provinces to steal a large chunk of their customerbase.