Actually Manineboi I believe you yourself gave the label in post #135:

"You know, I don't get where all the hate for Enclave is coming from. Is it just because the people from Terable are butthurt?"

How soon you conveniently forget. Perhaps someone else should speak for your guild? It is a good thing this is only a video game as a certain cultural secretary is facing perjury charges for inconsistent testimony.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/31/leveson-hunt-scoundrel-or-fool

Poor Mr Jeremy Hunt. Well not really as he knowingly did perjure himself as did yourself, only the term doesn't really apply outside of a courtroom so you should be ok.

Quote: Nurgesh on 05/31/2012, 07:54 PM - view

Uh, how is my statement saying "Terable = zerg guild?"

And it's not my fault if members of Terable are actually on here throwing hissy fits and insulting Enclave. So no, I'm just stating something obvious about Terable members' attitudes. And before you go off trying sound all uppity again, let me ask this:

1) Are you/other people mad for some reason?

Yes: Then in less than nicer terms, you are butthurt
No: Then stop spamming this thread because you have no reason to do so

Well allow me to refresh your memory yet again from the last page, post #160 by yourself:

"And yet no one labelled you -.- You're the one doing all the labeling on your own.

Whatever, I just hope the rest of your guild isn't as immature and childish as you."

I did not even mention zerg guilds when I was questioning you on this and showing you evidence that you yourself gave the label in post #135, something that you cannot deny and have conveniently not responded to. You just ignore the point and deflect with a personal attack calling anyone who questions you mad. So according to your last post #162 people who post in this thread are either mad or spamming. That's one way to fight against hard evidence that you are not what you claim to be I suppose.

And there you go taking everything I'm saying out of context.

Did I say anyone who opposes what I say is mad? No. So quit putting words in my mouth.

Are you going to deny that posts from people like CRSmasamune don't indicate they're unhappy or I don't know... mad? Does Mewnie's posts look like they were written out reasonably?

I've got nothing against the earlier posts, but even you can't deny that the chat (around the point I so called "labelled" members of a guild mad) was getting hostile.

Whatever, I'm done. I'd rather not waste my time with pointless arguments.

I posted this in another thread, but since it all started here and this entire thread became about this issue, I feel it is warranted to post it here as well.

Since everyone seems to want proof that SPECTRE plans to ruin your gameplay by raising taxes, here's your proof, right from the mouth of the founder of SPECTRE herself.

In his SPECTRE, Facts or Fictions thread, Valentio says this: Quote: Valentio on 06/16/2012, 11:09 PM

Then, in response to this, Aleniara (founder of SPECTRE) said:

Quote: Aleniari on 06/17/2012, 04:08 AM

I don't know about you guys, but this is all the proof I need of what SPECTRE's intentions are. The AZA has always said that we were against zerg guilds who band together to gather votes, take over provinces and then attempt to ruin your game play by raising your taxes or other malicious deeds. People laughed at us and said that guilds like this didn't exist, but they do. People accused us of mudslinging and lying because they said we have no proof, well there's your proof. A vote for a SPECTRE guild is a vote for zerging the fun right out of this game. Furthermore, if Valentio lied about this so blatantly, what else has he lied about and what else is SPECTRE keeping from the voters?

(To be clear, I have no problem at all with Aleniara and I appreciate her willingness to come forward with the truth about SPECTRE. Additionally, I believe most of the players in SPECTRE are pretty cool people, though clearly, some of them don't have the player's best interests at heart.)

Later today, the AZA will be posting an official response to Valentio's "Facts or Fiction" thread in a thread of our own. Watch for it if you care to know where we stand now that we have this knowledge.

Thanks,
Daedrynn, GL - Malicious Intent
Member of the AZA

Question, is it still mud-slinging if it comes out that there is truth in it? o.O

Personally idc who wins, be SPECTRE or AZA or a "wildcard" (Yes Alen i stole your line!!) It is the lying going on and the name calling. They have a different approach and vision than we do. I have no complaints with that but dang... could atleast be honest about it. So much double talk going on and people not taking ownership. I just don't understand, why hide? If they stand for something be proud of it, don't waffle so much and there should never be a need to make threats or call people names, its politics not UFC. The information is out there now, people will decide for themselves.

Although I am wondering still who was the creative person behind the OP. As scarey as it may be I wanna see vol. 2 lol!