The fact I won't throw guilds under the bus means I am shifty, but defending them means you aren't?
That is the second paragraph second sentence. Still not understanding, sorry at my age they say the first thing to go is the mind XD
In an attempt to get back on track here folks, I really would like to thank those who did/do support us in the first ever elections. We are having fun with you in game and hopefully, win or lose will get to continue this!!
See you all in game!!
First off, let me start by saying, I don't know any of these people from the "AZA". I am reading these threads because I'm not in a guild and I don't know who I want to vote for yet and it interests me. I read this whole conversation, and I am amazed at the amount of time and effort you people will go through to troll these candidates.
Daedrynn and Jellad and Dragonmuse have all explained their points and positions extensively and have answered all your questions to the best of their ability without compromising their own principles. Everything they said makes perfect sense to me. I have personally witnessed **many** people from zerg guilds talking about how they can't wait to troll people when they win the elections. It happens all the time in area and LFG chat. Whether or not they're telling the truth or just trolling, who knows and who cares? The possibility that they might do it is enough for me.
What you trolls are basically saying is: "I have never seen it, therefore it must not exist, and if you can't show it to me, then you're a trolling liar." That's ridiculous. There are plenty of things in life that people believe in even though they can't be proven. God, Heaven, life after death, reincarnation, ghosts, aliens. To say that it is impossible for any of those things to exist just because you've never seen them is not only incredibly arrogant, it's also incredibly foolish.
Daedrynn is right. The chances that troll (or zerg, whatever) guilds exist is a pretty good one. People like to troll. People are mean and people enjoy ruining other people's fun. It sounds like all you really need to know about this AZA group is that they are against people who will ruin other people's fun, and they plan to promote fun. I'm all for that. And frankly, I'd love to know who the zerg guilds are too, but I'm much more impressed that despite all the goading and name calling directed at them, none of the members of the AZA has compromised their principles and broken down and called out names. Sounds like they're a pretty stand-up group of people...so far.
Only time will tell if the so-called zerg guilds will get into office. I suspect they will, regardless of whether anyone like the AZA stands up to them. But at least if they do start trolling people in their provinces, you know you can go to an AZA-held zone and get a fair price and a good time. At least I hope that turns out to be the case. And if no one trolls anyone, then we all win, so this was all for naught.
I'm going to wait until the last day to vote and see how this all plays out. But at least for right now, my vote is leaning towards AZA. At least I know what they believe in and that they won't compromise themselves. Hey AZA: Don't screw it up!
[quote name='Voodoo_Papa' at='05/28/2012, 12:04 PM'][quote name='Argas' at='05/28/2012, 11:59 AM']
Its more the length at which some of you guys are going to defend guilds that have alterior motives to the vanarchy which is pretty damning.
I mean whats the point being made? Disbelief or guilt? [/quote]
Disbelief mostly. Politics tend to bring out the worst side of people.
I can honestly say I have never seen any actual guild names mentioned other than Passion and Something Terable. And I wasn't writing down the names of the people who were saying it, so I can't remember them specifically. But I've seen it a lot and I don't mind saying so. I have nothing to do with this alliance crap, I don't have time for it, so no I'm not in the AZA. You can think what you want, I was just weighing in. And to be clear, I'm not accusing anyone, I'm simply answering your question because it's not against my principles since I don't give a crap whether they're named or not.