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CODE5 on 05/27/2012, 05:48 AM - view
I think you should look at what you're saying there.
Something Terable is a guild full of low level players focusing on using numbers to defeat (???) their enemy (???). Is every guild with 300 members guilty of being a zerg guild? There's no place to even zerg. I guess, rushing in to kill all the basilisks in Arcadia is one way of zerging things but that hasn't happened.
If you're thinking of Goonfleet/Goonswarm/Goonwaffe in EVE, you're right about zerg tactics. Amusingly though, zerg tactics emerge in EVE as a counter to super expensive fleets, and it worked and forced the paradigm to change. Saying there's no strategy to numbers is kind of weak. It's a strategy of its own with its own share of pros and cons. TERA isn't that sort of game however, nor are members of Something Terable necessarily members of the EVE goon corporations.
We've had our name dragged through the mud for no other reason than being from Something Awful. For those who have only heard of SA through the exploits of goons in EVE, some have just made the leap of logic that we're one of the same. People don't judge Redditors by the actions of its now-defunct jailbait subreddits, why should the same be done for members of Something Awful?
Can you name any bad apples BTW? I wouldn't be surprised (Some people get off on that sort of thing, there's a thread all about griefing stories) but it's news to me that we're harboring disruptive players.
Voodoo_Papa on 05/27/2012, 07:54 AM
So guilds should never be preformed and should be dynamically formed in-game from meeting new people? This is an extreme position I'm setting up here but what's wrong with taking a pre-existing community into new games? It's not like we aren't partying up with people playing TERA either. We're recruiting people we enjoy playing with. Just last night, partied up with a sorc for several Fane runs and by the end of it, we wanted her in our guild.
We're generally isolated from the community because many members don't read or outright ignore Area and LFG chat because of the sheer amount of text that goes through it. I use LFG from time to time but it's often busy. At the very least, it's not nearly as disruptive since the GMs stepped in and cleaned out some of the unrelated chatter in LFG.
I haven't had much experience with Enclave so I can't say much of them but from their posts on this forum, they're a pre-existing guild who've played many MMOs previously. It's not that different from us, though they have taken the initiative of reaching out to people rather than just going with the flow.
You are right about the vanarchy info. Goons are good at being bad at things. Long nights of running dungeons leads to someone getting lazy and that's what we ended up with. Rather frustrating to many people in the guild.
It's unfortunate that things started out like this. Many of us rolled on Dragonfall because we didn't like OPVP that many other goons wanted. That's why they rolled on Valley of Titans. We just wanted to relax and play a fun game with people.
That's because their a zerg guild. That's what happens when you let anyone join your guild. you get a lot of bad apples dragging you guild down the hole. I have heard this rumor to but i'm not going to judge them on a few bad members in their guild. If I was GM I would clean house and find out who these bad apples are.
and since you are new to MMOs here's the definition of Zerg:
zerg is used in mmo games to describe force consisted of large group of lower level players (often with only basic equipment) who use numbers rather then strategy to defeat the enemy, therefore requiring no skill. This tactics is commonly known as zerging
I think you should look at what you're saying there.
Something Terable is a guild full of low level players focusing on using numbers to defeat (???) their enemy (???). Is every guild with 300 members guilty of being a zerg guild? There's no place to even zerg. I guess, rushing in to kill all the basilisks in Arcadia is one way of zerging things but that hasn't happened.
If you're thinking of Goonfleet/Goonswarm/Goonwaffe in EVE, you're right about zerg tactics. Amusingly though, zerg tactics emerge in EVE as a counter to super expensive fleets, and it worked and forced the paradigm to change. Saying there's no strategy to numbers is kind of weak. It's a strategy of its own with its own share of pros and cons. TERA isn't that sort of game however, nor are members of Something Terable necessarily members of the EVE goon corporations.
We've had our name dragged through the mud for no other reason than being from Something Awful. For those who have only heard of SA through the exploits of goons in EVE, some have just made the leap of logic that we're one of the same. People don't judge Redditors by the actions of its now-defunct jailbait subreddits, why should the same be done for members of Something Awful?
Can you name any bad apples BTW? I wouldn't be surprised (Some people get off on that sort of thing, there's a thread all about griefing stories) but it's news to me that we're harboring disruptive players.
Voodoo_Papa on 05/27/2012, 07:54 AM
so basically what im getting from this is Something Terable is a mega guild that built themselves not within the community of TERA, but on the something aweful site. Theyve admitted theyve isolated themselves from the community because theyre "layed back"
coincidentally they were leading the poles in the vanarchy until shortly before this post popped up, where suddenly they feel they need to explain themselves. Now "Enclave" who is a very active participant in out servers community is leading the poles.
i mean honestly I thought you guys were a gold farming guild due to your GM's name being "girl". sorry, but ive seen too many gold farmers running around with the names "boy" "baby" "girl" in my previous MMO days and your info for vanarchy doesnt help> "im so kwaaiii".. wtf is that? it almost mocks the entire vanarchy election, where most guilds are giving reasonable info like they give 2[filtered]s.
gratz on being a large guild though
So guilds should never be preformed and should be dynamically formed in-game from meeting new people? This is an extreme position I'm setting up here but what's wrong with taking a pre-existing community into new games? It's not like we aren't partying up with people playing TERA either. We're recruiting people we enjoy playing with. Just last night, partied up with a sorc for several Fane runs and by the end of it, we wanted her in our guild.
We're generally isolated from the community because many members don't read or outright ignore Area and LFG chat because of the sheer amount of text that goes through it. I use LFG from time to time but it's often busy. At the very least, it's not nearly as disruptive since the GMs stepped in and cleaned out some of the unrelated chatter in LFG.
I haven't had much experience with Enclave so I can't say much of them but from their posts on this forum, they're a pre-existing guild who've played many MMOs previously. It's not that different from us, though they have taken the initiative of reaching out to people rather than just going with the flow.
You are right about the vanarchy info. Goons are good at being bad at things. Long nights of running dungeons leads to someone getting lazy and that's what we ended up with. Rather frustrating to many people in the guild.
It's unfortunate that things started out like this. Many of us rolled on Dragonfall because we didn't like OPVP that many other goons wanted. That's why they rolled on Valley of Titans. We just wanted to relax and play a fun game with people.