Vent vs Mumble vs Teamspeak

Arturous Profile Options #1

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I really don't want this to turn into a flame war. I'm just hoping to understand the reasoning for what seems to be a major migration to Mumble these days.

Let me start by saying, yes, I've used all three services and from what I could tell, the sound quality of Ventrilo is superior to both Teamspeak and Mumble. I used Teamspeak back in the DAoC days, yes that's how long it's been out. I've been using Ventrilo for years with WoW, Rift, SWTOR. Then ran into a guild in SWTOR that used Mumble so was forced to install it and use it. Honestly the sound quality was nowhere near what I've been used to from Ventrilo. So why the major migration to Mumble recently? Is it much cheaper than Ventrilo for the people paying for the server subscription? And Teamspeak, people still use it? Really? Again...is it just way cheaper than Ventrilo?

Please don't start flaming and defending your reasons, I'm not trying to criticize you for using Teamspeak or Mumble. I'd just like to know what your personal reasons are. Is it because it's cheaper than Ventrilo? Is it because you had a problem with a Ventrilo server provider in the past? Just the facts please. No emotional defenses of your personal choice needed here folks. I may possibly end up taking the responsibility of providing a guild method of voice coms. So I just really would like to know why people choose one over the other to help me decide. My gut says stick with Ventrilo because it just sounds better to me, but many people are switching to Mumble and I'd really like to know why.
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This topic should be deleted. Simpy put it is dumb.
Edited by: Taer about 1 year ago - Reason: spelling and grammar
MiRai Profile Options #3

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All 3 have their pros and cons. A few I can think of off the top of my head are:

Ventrilo:
- (P) Almost dummy-proof set up
- (P) Most widely used VOIP program (from what I see)
- (C) Need multiple instances open for multiple servers at one time
- (C) Incompatible with certain input devices (personal experience)
- (C) Commercial license costs money

Teamspeak:
- (P) Connect to multiple servers via one instance of the program
- (P/C) More configuration options (some people like this, others don't)
- (P) Input devices that didn't work with Ventrilo worked flawlessly with TS3 (personal experience)
- (C) Commercial license costs money

Mumble: (I have very little experience with Mumble)
- (P) Input devices that didn't work with Ventrilo worked flawlessly with Mumble (personal experience)
- (P) Commercial license is absolutely free-of-charge

All programs seem to offer very similar quality among their codecs although, I have personally found Ventrilo to offer less quality than both Teamspeak 3 and Mumble. I have no spreadsheets or pie charts to show how I came to this conclusion but, I tested with multiple friends across the different programs at the same time and that's where I stand.
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MiRai on 04/27/2012, 09:49 AM - view
All 3 have their pros and cons. A few I can think of off the top of my head are:

Ventrilo:
- (P) Almost dummy-proof set up
- (P) Most widely used VOIP program (from what I see)
- (C) Need multiple instances open for multiple servers at one time
- (C) Incompatible with certain input devices (personal experience)
- (C) Commercial license costs money

Teamspeak:
- (P) Connect to multiple servers via one instance of the program
- (P/C) More configuration options (some people like this, others don't)
- (P) Input devices that didn't work with Ventrilo worked flawlessly with TS3 (personal experience)
- (C) Commercial license costs money

Mumble: (I have very little experience with Mumble)
- (P) Input devices that didn't work with Ventrilo worked flawlessly with Mumble (personal experience)
- (P) Commercial license is absolutely free-of-charge

All programs seem to offer very similar quality among their codecs


pretty much this.

i've used all 3, and it all depends on how it is set up.
Edited by: DrakeDragon about 1 year ago
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I personally prefer ventrilo for the sound quality... however I was convinced to make the change to using teamspeak for my guild because of the file library. Last time I had used teamspeak was several years ago and it was completely worthless imo (debatable now). Since then, they've added a file library that allows you to upload/download files between users(extra charge, depending on how much use you expect it to get) which is a plus.

Teamspeak also lets you set it to auto-adjust users volume, so that if someone suddenly shouts, or whispers, it will change their volume to an understandable/bearable level. There is also a feature to auto-dim the other computer sounds while someone is speaking, so they can be heard over a suddenly loud part of combat.

You know that ventrilo lag some users occasionally get that make everyone else hear what they said a word at a time, sometimes with minutes between each word? I'm told that doesn't happen in TS either, but I've only started using it again within the last month, so I can't confirm it (I haven't heard it yet though, so that's a plus).

I still miss the excellent sound quality of ventrilo though :(
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MiRai and DrakeDragon,

Thanks for your inputs. I do appreciate it. Perhaps the Mumble I used just wasn't set up correctly but it honestly sounded like garbage to me personally. I haven't used Teamspeak in so long, perhaps TS3 is much better than the original version which is surely what I used back in the day. As far as input devices not working with Ventrilo, I haven't run into that so I can't really say. I tend to use cheap headsets from Walmart or Radio Shack and all the ones I've tried have worked fine. Maybe the big name fancy sets are the ones causing problems? Cost wise, are they all about the same to keep up?

As to Taer's quite hateful and unnecessary post, I'll respond nicely by saying, this post may be dumb to you, but being on Dragonfall server, and with the potential of others from other guilds possibly needing to join myself or my guildmates in whatever voice com program I chose to use, it seemed to me worth at least a little effort to find out which program the majority of the guilds will be using and why.
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Just to add more talking points, Kuradora:

Vent can be set to auto adjust peoples volume as well

Ive had TS lag out just like vent does as well as mumble, there was an infamous "Are you going to pop bloodlust?!?" in my old wow guild on a TS server that came through about 15sec after the boss died lol



and my own personal opinions?
Vent > TS > Mumble

90% based on consistently better sound quality in vent servers and 10% based on Mumble having been annoying to setup to work properly for me
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We use mumble because I can run a murmur server without paying for someone to host it for me. It has a low latency, and footprint on the host machine. As well as being open sourced. Oh, did I mention that it's free?
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Arturous on 04/27/2012, 10:55 AM - view
Perhaps the Mumble I used just wasn't set up correctly but it honestly sounded like garbage to me personally. I haven't used Teamspeak in so long, perhaps TS3 is much better than the original version which is surely what I used back in the day. As far as input devices not working with Ventrilo, I haven't run into that so I can't really say. I tend to use cheap headsets from Walmart or Radio Shack and all the ones I've tried have worked fine. Maybe the big name fancy sets are the ones causing problems? Cost wise, are they all about the same to keep up?


I really find that everyone's mileage may very depending on their input device and the codec that the server is using. If anyone's looking for 24-bit 96kHz quality studio quality, they're going to be let down; and, if the person you're listening to is using a $7 mic from Walmart, anyone should expect it to sound like they're listening to a $7 mic from Walmart.

I would say that Teamspeak2 fell behind in the 'race' back in the day (if there was even a race to begin with) against Ventrilo in quality and that's why Ventrilo took off the way it did. These days, I do prefer TS3 to Ventrilo or Mumble in configuration, voice quality, and aesthetics.

As far as input devices, Ventrilo seems to be flakey with certain M-Audio interface devices -- Nothing that a regular Vent user would be using.
Edited by: MiRai about 1 year ago - Reason: Clarification
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Kuradora on 04/27/2012, 10:47 AM - view
I personally prefer ventrilo for the sound quality... however I was convinced to make the change to using teamspeak for my guild because of the file library. Last time I had used teamspeak was several years ago and it was completely worthless imo (debatable now). Since then, they've added a file library that allows you to upload/download files between users(extra charge, depending on how much use you expect it to get) which is a plus.

Teamspeak also lets you set it to auto-adjust users volume, so that if someone suddenly shouts, or whispers, it will change their volume to an understandable/bearable level. There is also a feature to auto-dim the other computer sounds while someone is speaking, so they can be heard over a suddenly loud part of combat.

You know that ventrilo lag some users occasionally get that make everyone else hear what they said a word at a time, sometimes with minutes between each word? I'm told that doesn't happen in TS either, but I've only started using it again within the last month, so I can't confirm it (I haven't heard it yet though, so that's a plus).

I still miss the excellent sound quality of ventrilo though :(


Ty Kuradora,

I wasn't aware TS had the upload/download file function. That certainly could prove useful depending on the useage expected. I do know that you can also normalize the volumes in Ventrilo, I lost the instructions to do it, but I'm sure it's easily found via google/yahoo. I have indeed experienced the voice lag you're talking about and always assumed it was the person's routing/connection to the ventrilo server rather than the ventrilo program itself. That's interesting and good information if you don't ever get that from TS3. This makes a good case for me to do more research on TS3.

I still would very much appreciate input from more guild leaders or whoever will host the voice com for your guild. Just so I can get a better idea if one program is getting used a lot more than the others. I would lean toward using the most popular one I think if I could get a good feel for that.