faztazfuk
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Again THANK YOU!!!
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Ryvenn
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Yeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
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Ryvenn on 05/24/2012, 12:12 PM - view
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
Also I am not saying that they should give into ever whim, cry and plea from the fan base. But they should always acknowledge bug reports, answer peoples questions regarding the release of content, take the Nexus' for example, where are they? Any time it is asked it falls on deaf ears. All EME would have to do to settle this to legitimate people wondering where they are is say that they know that they are a sought after feature, but there still isn't enough max level players across all the servers to make the mechanic work properly. See.
Silence is never a proper way to respond because it suggest ignorance.
Yeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
Also I am not saying that they should give into ever whim, cry and plea from the fan base. But they should always acknowledge bug reports, answer peoples questions regarding the release of content, take the Nexus' for example, where are they? Any time it is asked it falls on deaf ears. All EME would have to do to settle this to legitimate people wondering where they are is say that they know that they are a sought after feature, but there still isn't enough max level players across all the servers to make the mechanic work properly. See.
Silence is never a proper way to respond because it suggest ignorance.
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faztazfuk
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Catatonic on 05/24/2012, 12:14 PM - view
I highly doubt you know anything about how this market works, especially the gaming market... No offense just being honest.
A few hundred forum posters does not consist of the NA gaming market. >.>
Most people, as a matter of fact never visit the forum.
Ryvenn on 05/24/2012, 12:12 PMYeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
I highly doubt you know anything about how this market works, especially the gaming market... No offense just being honest.
A few hundred forum posters does not consist of the NA gaming market. >.>
Most people, as a matter of fact never visit the forum.
faztazfuk
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Catatonic on 05/24/2012, 12:14 PM - view
Did you not read this thread? they responded... What silence are you talking about?
Ryvenn on 05/24/2012, 12:12 PMYeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
Also I am not saying that they should give into ever whim, cry and plea from the fan base. But they should always acknowledge bug reports, answer peoples questions regarding the release of content, take the Nexus' for example, where are they? Any time it is asked it falls on deaf ears. All EME would have to do to settle this to legitimate people wondering where they are is say that they know that they are a sought after feature, but there still isn't enough max level players across all the servers to make the mechanic work properly. See.
Silence is never a proper way to respond because it suggest ignorance.
Did you not read this thread? they responded... What silence are you talking about?
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faztazfuk on 05/24/2012, 12:18 PM - view
So explain to me why western games are selling bucket loads more than eastern games?
I know quite well how the market works, and no the forums aren't a proper way to gauge the community but for every one person that say where is this, or this is a problem there could easily be 10, 100, or a 1000 people that feel that same way that never speak up.
Catatonic on 05/24/2012, 12:14 PMRyvenn on 05/24/2012, 12:12 PMYeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
I highly doubt you know anything about how this market works, especially the gaming market... No offense just being honest.
A few hundred forum posters does not consist of the NA gaming market. >.>
Most people, as a matter of fact never visit the forum.
So explain to me why western games are selling bucket loads more than eastern games?
I know quite well how the market works, and no the forums aren't a proper way to gauge the community but for every one person that say where is this, or this is a problem there could easily be 10, 100, or a 1000 people that feel that same way that never speak up.
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12 months ago
IVoXI
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Minea on 05/24/2012, 11:27 AM - view
How many more requests for this basic feedback will go ignored and unanswered? I saw it coming out of OBT and 3 chat sessions later, they all say the same thing. "We'll drop it in the suggestion Box" and nothing changes.
Someone, SOMEONE at EME obviously needs to the initiative to post this information otherwise it's not going to get done. Ever.
As it stands now, as far as I'm concerned, EME could care less about their community, updating and communicating with their player base. 1 Post a week, isn't enough by far, but it would a start..
Who at EME can step up to the challenge of providing a basic courtesy to it's player base? We're waiting.
5th Request.
Thank you for the feedback. We will definitely try harder.
How many more requests for this basic feedback will go ignored and unanswered? I saw it coming out of OBT and 3 chat sessions later, they all say the same thing. "We'll drop it in the suggestion Box" and nothing changes.
Someone, SOMEONE at EME obviously needs to the initiative to post this information otherwise it's not going to get done. Ever.
As it stands now, as far as I'm concerned, EME could care less about their community, updating and communicating with their player base. 1 Post a week, isn't enough by far, but it would a start..
Who at EME can step up to the challenge of providing a basic courtesy to it's player base? We're waiting.
5th Request.
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faztazfuk on 05/24/2012, 12:19 PM - view
You call that a reply and are satisfied with it? LMAO. That was a generic response. "We will try harder." Yeah seriously doubt that.
BioWare has always been up front on things going on and what's up and coming. They already talked about what is coming in patch 1.3. Tera has communicated squat to its customers, yet the Tera fanbois said the devs here are better at updates and responding?? LMAO
Did you not read this thread? they responded... What silence are you talking about?
You call that a reply and are satisfied with it? LMAO. That was a generic response. "We will try harder." Yeah seriously doubt that.
BioWare has always been up front on things going on and what's up and coming. They already talked about what is coming in patch 1.3. Tera has communicated squat to its customers, yet the Tera fanbois said the devs here are better at updates and responding?? LMAO
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faztazfuk on 05/24/2012, 12:19 PM - view
Of course I read the thread it is only 2 pages long. That is a typical canned response. When EME says something I'll believe it when I see it. They don't have a good track record right now.
Catatonic on 05/24/2012, 12:14 PMRyvenn on 05/24/2012, 12:12 PMYeah, I gotta say that all the forum cries for developer communication are sorely misunderstanding how Korean developers operate. At least in my experience with Aion and L2, there was almost no communication from devs and very minimal communication from community reps. Sony/SE was likewise nearly mute until WELL into FFXI.
I think their mentality is more "here's our product; you're welcome to buy it" as opposed to "tell us what you want so we can make that product." I think the first approach, while more rigid, allows for more integrity in a game and less of what you see in western games which inevitably devolves into little more than appeasing the unwashed masses for a buck.
That model might work over there, but they aren't just selling the game there. If you want your game to be truly successful in a foreign market you have to adapt to that market, not vice versa.
Also I am not saying that they should give into ever whim, cry and plea from the fan base. But they should always acknowledge bug reports, answer peoples questions regarding the release of content, take the Nexus' for example, where are they? Any time it is asked it falls on deaf ears. All EME would have to do to settle this to legitimate people wondering where they are is say that they know that they are a sought after feature, but there still isn't enough max level players across all the servers to make the mechanic work properly. See.
Silence is never a proper way to respond because it suggest ignorance.
Did you not read this thread? they responded... What silence are you talking about?
Of course I read the thread it is only 2 pages long. That is a typical canned response. When EME says something I'll believe it when I see it. They don't have a good track record right now.
sonic101mk2
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I personally have no idea when the next patch is, or what it's supposed to do. It's like a ninja it just appears and i don't notice anything different.