So I just hit level 60 today, did some dailies and deciede to queue up for a normal run (no hard mode yet) My item level is 142 and have some pretty decent crystals (4) increase boss damage by 7% (28% increase total) I sit in queue for about an hour. I finally get joined up and the leader says "gear check". 30 seconds later I get kicked and have to re-queue all over again. I have all level 60 golds and a good rotation on my sorc for max dps. I dont understand, maybe Im missing something. It's not right, and crap like that ruins people's gaming experience. It shouldnt be allowed, imo.

Welcome to the hell of god complex lancers. If you arnt wearing gear from BT, most will kick you from BT groups.

ya that is pretty sh*tty. Only suggestion to that is...run with friends or a guild. A guild preferably... A GOOD guild....and by "good" I mean nice people.

SAME HERE !

1 hour 30 waiting and they kicked me becouse they dont want to share the loot with me ....

The leedar sayed : " I feel no simpathy "



[filtered] THAT !

Find an active and guild and try to run with them, I know a lot of people can be douchebags but try not to stoop to their level.

As long as some people stay nice theres hope of converting those egotistical maniacs yet!

Lancer here.

I think they should implement one or more of the following anti-grief solutions:

1. Kick cool down of 15 minutes

2. Cannot have kicked more than 3 people in the past 24 hours.

3. Cannot kick people in boss rooms

4. Auto-resurrect people after boss fights so they can roll on loot

Quote: Honda on 05/24/2012, 03:02 AM - view

This is somewhat expected, although silly. The mentality is that a person's time and unwillingness to die makes them antsy and want to have perfect progression. They don't want to die to some stupid idiot who pulled aggro, caused an untimely enrage, couldn't keep heling going, etc.. Implicitly, it is never that person's fault that they died.

What they never seem to realize is that the first bosses of Fane and Temple are both gear checks, with side skill checks involved. These bosses are relatively easy with complex mechanics that requires the group to be skilled enough with the right degree of gear to produce the kill. The gatecheck is already in the game, by preventing you from queueing, while the boss stresses a further gear check when everything is flowing smoothly, and allows the group to see who's got the skill for the rest of the dungeon.

I won't use my most ideal crystals that I cannot buy from a vendor when it comes to NMs for the sake of testing a groups skill, so will use basic damage and defense games of a tier or two below crux for the purpose of testing my group's ability to take down the boss. This should be obvious for everyone else. Instead, groups get manic about the need for epeen and overkill, rather than experience and learning. So effing sad.

Yup. People are paranoid and they will kick you based on gear, not skill.
Why???????
Because we don't have parsable combat logs.

Quote: Kimchi on 05/24/2012, 04:30 AM - view

you'd still get kicked for your gear even if we had a combat parser

Honestly, there are a ton of jerks that queue 60 dungeons, and like to kick if your gear is not up to par. And I do not see this changing until there are way more level 60s. I feel especially bad for Berserkers, I think that they get kicked way more then other class because of loot [filtered]s. I would not mind seeing some implantation to battle the Lancer vote kicking process for those who abuse it. Like if the votekick fails, and then the Lancer leaves, they should have a debuff that lasts longer then normal.