Quote: brogar on 05/08/2012, 01:51 AM

Whoa, now. Don't you worry, I'm sure they're hiring additional staff to take dictation on your game ideas.

Why do you waste your time posting? I hardly ever post here myself, so I'm not sure why you're jumping to the conclusion that I'm trying to tell them what to do. Other players however have posted some great ideas, and others have posted very valid concerns about the issues the game has.

Considering this is an MMO and you pay a subscription fee, it's generally helpful if the developers post their plans so the paying players can decide if they like the direction the game is heading or not. I personally don't see myself playing this game more than a month, maybe two unless a few things are changed. With most games I can browse their forums and read up on the changes that are planned, on this forum I get people like you who contribute nothing and waste everyone's time.

So because they aren't holding your hand every step of the way, they aren't listening? That's what I'm getting out of this.

Dude, how do you survive in real life being THIS self-entitled? They just launched, and have been swamped with account errors. They already have mentioned what updates are coming down the road in a few weeks/months, they immediately update their Facebook with any issues that arise.
They don't have to reply do every damn whiner thread on the forums. They have someone take notes and bring it up in meetings and emails. That is how game design works. Features must be implemented in milestones, not just "whenever someone mentions something". Changes must be discussed on a overall basis of how it can affect the game, and what implications it could have to existing features, and what tech/art/design needs this will create. So stop crying over something you know nothing of.


They are on top of it. Now go change your panties.

Quote: Skittl3s on 05/08/2012, 10:38 AM

So because they aren't holding your hand every step of the way, they aren't listening? That's what I'm getting out of this.

Dude, how do you survive in real life being THIS self-entitled? They just launched, and have been swamped with account errors. They already have mentioned what updates are coming down the road in a few weeks/months, they immediately update their Facebook with any issues that arise.
They don't have to reply do every damn whiner thread on the forums. They have someone take notes and bring it up in meetings and emails. That is how game design works. Features must be implemented in milestones, not just "whenever someone mentions something". Changes must be discussed on a overall basis of how it can affect the game, and what implications it could have to existing features, and what tech/art/design needs this will create. So stop crying over something you know nothing of.


They are on top of it. Now go change your panties.

You know you people should think before you post your venom, If you rented an apartment and it had problems your going to complain to the owner to fix them, Tera is my apartment and somethings need to be fixed, it's only good management to be reassure that your concerns are heard. Stop picking on the OP, ya jerk. also if things don't get fix you move enough said.

Quote: tizubythefizo on 05/08/2012, 11:48 AM

They didn't ignore the feedback. They fully acknowledge that not everyone was happy with the Elin thing. However they've made their position very clear. It will not be changing.

That's not ignoring feedback. Ignoring feedback would have been never commenting on it. They have, multiple times.

They are willing to take the loss of any players that may leave the game because of it (but seriously, if something so trivial is *the* gamebreaker for someone, it's my opinion that they should go see a psychiatrist).

(I'm not saying people don't have a right to complain about it. I am saying don't hijack the thread. We both know the complainers in this respect weren't ignored. They got an answer they didn't like. [filtered] happens, move along).

There are many stages of ignoring feedback. The one you are talking about, is when no replies are left. The type I'm talking about is when you just leave a default answer without even considering what the question was.

People want to know WHY we can't have BOTH textures according to OUR choice. That is what EME has to answer. Nobody is asking EME to put original textures in front of Tera players that do not want them. We are asking that they are handed to us who do want them.

In short. For you, nothing changes, for us, the game gets better. Win-Win. And what we want to hear is EME explaining why Win-Win is negative for business. Can you earn too much profit?

Quote: Malamasala on 05/08/2012, 01:34 PM

Quote: tizubythefizo on 05/08/2012, 11:48 AM

They didn't ignore the feedback. They fully acknowledge that not everyone was happy with the Elin thing. However they've made their position very clear. It will not be changing.

That's not ignoring feedback. Ignoring feedback would have been never commenting on it. They have, multiple times.

They are willing to take the loss of any players that may leave the game because of it (but seriously, if something so trivial is *the* gamebreaker for someone, it's my opinion that they should go see a psychiatrist).

(I'm not saying people don't have a right to complain about it. I am saying don't hijack the thread. We both know the complainers in this respect weren't ignored. They got an answer they didn't like. [filtered] happens, move along).

There are many stages of ignoring feedback. The one you are talking about, is when no replies are left. The type I'm talking about is when you just leave a default answer without even considering what the question was.

People want to know WHY we can't have BOTH textures according to OUR choice. That is what EME has to answer. Nobody is asking EME to put original textures in front of Tera players that do not want them. We are asking that they are handed to us who do want them.

In short. For you, nothing changes, for us, the game gets better. Win-Win. And what we want to hear is EME explaining why Win-Win is negative for business. Can you earn too much profit?

In short, you're acting as if years of discussion never occurred and all EME posts on the subject never happened, because they weren't the responses you wanted to hear.

Please stop beating a dead horse, you have a knack for championing causes well after their dead and gone. The Elin issue is over, because it's been commented on with finality. Don't act as if EME never listened, responded, allowed and participated in copious amounts of discussion on the topic before getting to the point where Elin rants are constantly locked.

You didn't get it your way, stop throwing a hissy fit. You, and a number of Elin supporters, denounced official posts as 'outdated' when you pressed for official stances. You, and a number of Elin supporters, have continually worked to prevent the community from moving past the issue. You, and a number of Elin supporters, will never be happy and never be pleased unless you get your way.

Give it up already, it's not changing.

Quote: Malamasala on 05/08/2012, 01:34 PM

Quote: tizubythefizo on 05/08/2012, 11:48 AM

They didn't ignore the feedback. They fully acknowledge that not everyone was happy with the Elin thing. However they've made their position very clear. It will not be changing.

That's not ignoring feedback. Ignoring feedback would have been never commenting on it. They have, multiple times.

They are willing to take the loss of any players that may leave the game because of it (but seriously, if something so trivial is *the* gamebreaker for someone, it's my opinion that they should go see a psychiatrist).

(I'm not saying people don't have a right to complain about it. I am saying don't hijack the thread. We both know the complainers in this respect weren't ignored. They got an answer they didn't like. [filtered] happens, move along).

There are many stages of ignoring feedback. The one you are talking about, is when no replies are left. The type I'm talking about is when you just leave a default answer without even considering what the question was.

People want to know WHY we can't have BOTH textures according to OUR choice. That is what EME has to answer. Nobody is asking EME to put original textures in front of Tera players that do not want them. We are asking that they are handed to us who do want them.

In short. For you, nothing changes, for us, the game gets better. Win-Win. And what we want to hear is EME explaining why Win-Win is negative for business. Can you earn too much profit?

In short, you're acting as if years of discussion never occurred and all EME posts on the subject never happened, because they weren't the responses you wanted to hear.

Please stop beating a dead horse, you have a knack for championing causes well after their dead and gone. The Elin issue is over, because it's been commented on with finality. Don't act as if EME never listened, responded, allowed and participated in copious amounts of discussion on the topic before getting to the point where Elin rants are constantly locked.

You didn't get it your way, stop throwing a hissy fit. You, and a number of Elin supporters, denounced official posts as 'outdated' when you pressed for official stances. You, and a number of Elin supporters, have continually worked to prevent the community from moving past the issue. You, and a number of Elin supporters, will never be happy and never be pleased unless you get your way.

Give it up already, it's not changing.

And I don't care if it changes, which you would know if you actually read any of my posts, but apparently you consider yourself some kind of forum god who don't need to read, and can just assume what others are saying.

An answer is all I need to drop the topic. An answer to why they didn't aim to please everyone, when such a solution was presented.

It can be anything, as long as it is the truth.

"Too lazy, didn't want to"
"Afraid of pedos playing my game"
"We told BHS to change them and it would be awkward to ask them to work more on it"
"We think players of Elins are pedos and try and make people avoid the race"

I know fully well a company has no obligation to answer any random questions on a forum. But when the question has been raised by dozens of individuals, on hundreds of threads, it would be nice with an answer.

I'm not selfish, since I have hundreds of other players sharing my opinion.

Quote: Skittl3s on 05/08/2012, 10:38 AM

So because they aren't holding your hand every step of the way, they aren't listening? That's what I'm getting out of this.

Dude, how do you survive in real life being THIS self-entitled? They just launched, and have been swamped with account errors. They already have mentioned what updates are coming down the road in a few weeks/months, they immediately update their Facebook with any issues that arise.
They don't have to reply do every damn whiner thread on the forums. They have someone take notes and bring it up in meetings and emails. That is how game design works. Features must be implemented in milestones, not just "whenever someone mentions something". Changes must be discussed on a overall basis of how it can affect the game, and what implications it could have to existing features, and what tech/art/design needs this will create. So stop crying over something you know nothing of.


They are on top of it. Now go change your panties.

You know you people should think before you post your venom, If you rented an apartment and it had problems your going to complain to the owner to fix them, Tera is my apartment and somethings need to be fixed, it's only good management to be reassure that your concerns are heard. Stop picking on the OP, ya jerk. also if things don't get fix you move enough said.

They gave you their answer, they don't need to justify it.

Their answer is that the "original skins" will not be implemented or supported in NA Tera.

That would include having an "option".

What part of that do you not understand? Is it the justification you want? If so, call customer support and ask and see what they tell you.

You want justification?

"Cause EME said so." that's all the justification you need.