Are priests really that bad?

Ippiki Profile Options #1

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I've been hearing that priests are being kicked in level 60 parties because people want the OMG SO AMAZING 5% (FIVE PERCENT!) critical hit buff mystic has.

So, I'm considering remaking my level 33 priest as a mystic, but there's also something else bothering me.

I don't want to get kicked (which, uh, probably won't happen, see below), but then, I also don't want to cater to DPS pedantry, which ruined my enjoyment of the last game I played and made me hate everyone else who put the sort of time I did into playing, and play with lowbies instead.

I am a hardcore (heavy time investment) player who cannot stand pedantry and elitism over piddling % differences, basically. I don't mind if somebody screwed up and died, it's an "oh well" not a "GET OUT YOU LOSER." I don't mind if somebody isn't playing with optimal equipment. I don't think "I lost a certain % of my life playing this run," I think "This run took a bit longer, but that's life."

5% is not that amazing a difference IMO. So, it helps you clear the dungeon 5% faster? Big whoop, enjoy your 5% back of your life that you didn't have to spend on this enjoyable game.

It occurs to me if you complain about your 5% I will have a lot of fun kicking you, so I see it as a nice way to troll the DPS whingers that I hate.

If you're not a big DPS whiner, can you please offer me some constructive advice as to whether I should remake my priest, and give back the 5% time back to the community that I'll spend an extra week on getting to 60 and helping the community with an extra healer. Worth it or no?

Note: we will always kick 5% whiners anyway. I play with my husband, we alternate playing lancers and we always click willing to lead party.
LaSirene Profile Options #2

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Anyone who kicks someone for their class is ignorant and screenshots of their name should be posted on a thread. Perhaps not on the official forums but still.

All classes are viable in this game. Kicking someone because of some imaginary superiority is stupid. Especially since there aren't any combat logs and so you can't quantify 'x is better than y because z'.

Everyone should play what they want and have fun. It's just a game. I'm a level 60 priest and I've NEVER been kicked because I 'wasn't a mystic'.

Edit: Actually, I've never been kicked at all!
Edited by: LaSirene 12 months ago
vsTerminus Profile Options #3

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Look at it this way:

A priest has more raw healing power than a mystic thanks to the HoT circles. That makes them more able to keep a lower-level or undergeared party alive in a dungeon. It's also easier to sustain someone who is having a bad day and keeps making mistakes. If you like to PUG, a Priest will be useful.

The mystic has less direct healing ability, but has the crit buff and the mana balls (which is the main reason I love having a mystic around). You need a higher skill party or, or at least one with better gear than a priest does to be successful. Your party also needs to be on the ball about your candy motes. It's amazing how many people completely ignore those and then blame the healer for letting them die.

In the end, an organized party who all know what they are doing and have done this instance before are probably going to want a mystic. But if they're new, or undergeared, or just *not dicks*, they'll be perfectly happy to have a priest around.

I like the Tank role, so my main is a Lancer and my alt is a warrior tank. I would suggest to all the healers out there that whichever healing class they pick as their main, they also level up an alt of the other healing class. It's nice to have options.
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DarkJE5T3R Profile Options #5

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If you play with your husband and he's a lancer, I would not bother to reroll due to the fact you really only need DPS so if they complain and whine who cares its DPS easily found within the next 0.5 seconds. I myself have an Archer and Mystic (both at 60), yes they are fun and do help with dungeon running, but crit is only part of why people favor mystics, they also have a Mana regen Aura. With those 2 auras there really isn't any "downtime".

I do not know what server you play on, but im on a PvP server priest excel in healing PvP a little harder for mystics. I love having a priest in my party due to the fact that the priest doesnt have to be 20m of everyone to get the auras, and their power buff is the exact same amount of that as a mystic. Also I prefer them because we have a warrior tank and its easier to keep him up with a priest then a mystic. Also note that for a mystics auras to be successful, they have to be with 20m of a party member. 90% of the time the entire party isnt within 20ms of the mystic, so the priest static buffs help out alot too! If you get people complain about "Omg theres no crit wtf!" Tell them to go buy Keen Charms and Savage scrolls.

TL;DR Priest is fine, if you like it don't reroll. Play what you think is fun, don't cater to others.
Yeppers Profile Options #6

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Elites are like 0.0000001% of the population.

People do get unfortunately mixed up in that number (I know I have) But people of Tera are generally nice, as long as you play your role.
BlackReaper Profile Options #7

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I wouldn't say Priests are useless, but if you have a good group, a Mystic will do more for you. They give all DPS x2 crit rate, and also give constant mana regen to everyone. Not only that, but they drop tons of Mana Orbs, so you can go from zero mana to full mana just from picking a few of those up. AND, for boss fights like the Red Kuma, the Mystic is more usefull because they can drop tons of HP orbs while they kite the adds to the pool, so we're not left without heals. AND their totem is a wide range aoe HoT, that seems to constantly give shields that absorb 5k damage. However, if you have a bad group, a priest will do more for you since they're have more heals in general to keep people alive.

DarkJE5T3R on 06/01/2012, 07:13 AM - view
IAlso note that for a mystics auras to be successful, they have to be with 20m of a party member. 90% of the time the entire party isnt within 20ms of the mystic


If you're playing with Mystics that aren't in aura range 90% of the time, your Mystic is doing something wrong. Unless it's a fight where the mystic has to kite adds around or go kill pillars, they should always be within 20m of the melee dps and tank.
Ippiki Profile Options #8

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The stupid thing about elitism is the only possible reason I can see for it is to clear stuff faster and get better rewards.

BUT if you could play the trading system as well as I do you can compensate for a bit of a screwup and quite often a bad player in party can make for a good laugh.

(I'm sorry to the Baraka healer we outright kicked last night though. I think AFKing through much of the previous random game we had you in was a bit much.)
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BlackReaper on 06/01/2012, 07:19 AM - view
If you're playing with Mystics that aren't in aura range 90% of the time, your Mystic is doing something wrong. Unless it's a fight where the mystic has to kite adds around or go kill pillars, they should always be within 20m of the melee dps and tank.


Try staying near a Mystic in the first boss fight in Fane of Kaprima :P. I'm a sorc, and I still try to stay near the Mystic as he/she take cares of the pillars even though I would do more dmg from the back of the boss.
Tonbbery Profile Options #10

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Are you people but hurt this badly that one boot = "OMG Q.Q END OF THE WORLD MAN"

@OP: No, no one kick healer's unless they let the tank die.
Edited by: Tonbbery 12 months ago