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Ukaei on 05/17/2012, 07:34 AM - view
Ippiki on 05/17/2012, 07:29 AM
Ukaei on 05/17/2012, 07:25 AM
Bdunc on 05/17/2012, 07:14 AM
stfu there's nothing gamebreaking about these items. If you can't afford them tough toenails...suck it up and get a f*cking life. Weapons skins, race change, changing your looks does not affect you in any way shape or form. If EME wants to make a few extra dollars on the side from players willing to spend more then good for them, everyone is looking for a way to make extra money. Everyone is a damn baby nowadays no one just plays a game and enjoys it, most people here probably voted for obama from the looks of it.


You do know this is the first P2P game I can come up out of the top of my head that is selling cosmetic gear for cash? Don't you see something horribly wrong with that? Don't you feel wronged!? A cry for justice! You might say.. well, WOW sells mounts and pets! Well, Bdune, their just mounts and pets, but WOW isn't selling skins gear that's nearly or better as good the 1337 gear you get from playing the game. The vanity skins I'm sure will get so good, so good since they are worth real money after all.. that they'll eventually put in game gear to shame.


I feel wronged that the police beat up innocent people, and put them to death after hamfisted trials where the innocent party could not afford decent representation.

Will the elected Vanarch put an end to this injustice?

Wait... that's not in a game, it's in real life.


You don't make any sense.. well, I don't get you. I'll try tho.


Tera was sold as a P2P game, but has recently adopted a f2p cosmetic shop. Justice!


They may take our money, but they will never take...

OUR FREEDOM!

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Ukaei on 05/17/2012, 07:25 AM - view


You do know this is the first P2P game I can come up out of the top of my head that is selling cosmetic gear for cash? Don't you see something horribly wrong with that? Don't you feel wronged!? A cry for justice! You might say.. well, WOW sells mounts and pets! Well, Bdune, their just mounts and pets, but WOW isn't selling skins gear that's nearly or better as good as the 1337 gear you get from playing the game. The vanity skins I'm sure will get so good, so good since they are worth real money after all.. that they'll eventually put in game gear to shame.


It isn't the first. Of just the MMOs I have recently played in the past 2 years: EQ2, Aion, and UO did/do it too. I'm fairly certain there are others. Fluff is fluff. Pets and mounts are fluff, WoW isn't any "better". It seems that your concern it mostly around these skins being better looking than other gear. First, that's completely subjective. I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't think that highly of the skins. Second, how do you know that there won't be "better" looking weapon skins available in-game at some point too? These are merely options for people who want them, they aren't meant to replace gear.

Also, "Cash shops" in P2P games have been around for years now, I don't understand why people still think it's a F2P thing. It's not, not anymore.
Edited by: SeraElf about 1 year ago
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ppl who play F2P waste more money than P2P games, fact.

In the Cash shop of F2P are items that are game breaking, if Tera only put "fashion" items I could care less.

And after reading a lot of thread I think Tera rlly open the doors to ppl who never played a MMORPG, cause all of these thread simply can't be made by a regular MMORPG player.

CASH SHOP !?!!!!?!?!?! shocking.... -_-
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Bdunc on 05/17/2012, 07:33 AM - view
Ukaei on 05/17/2012, 07:25 AM

You do know this is the first P2P game I can come up out of the top of my head that is selling cosmetic gear for cash? Don't you see something horribly wrong with that? Don't you feel wronged!? A cry for justice! You might say.. well, WOW sells mounts and pets! Well, Bdune, their just mounts and pets, but WOW isn't selling skins gear that's nearly or better as good the 1337 gear you get from playing the game. The vanity skins I'm sure will get so good, so good since they are worth real money after all.. that they'll eventually put in game gear to shame.


When Aion was P2P they were selling more than just weapon skins and gender changes etc etc. Like someone said earlier, cash shop is a trend that most P2P games are heading towards. Vanity skins are just that...vanity. The only way it affects players is it makes them jealous and angry that they are too frugal to spend the cash to get what they want in game. PVPing against someone looking like god in the most ostentatious pvp armor and weapons won't be any different since it is just a skin. But my point is, even if vanity items get EPIC it won't change the fact they are just vanity items. And last time I checked, i play this game for the gameplay and not the way my character looks. I think people should just lighten up and stop being drama queens over non-gamebreaking items. But as I've seen there is no game I've played that they have put some of the best gear in game on cash shops because as you said that kills the game, I would quit if they put in top end gear on a cash shop because that's throwing [filtered] in my face after I played and earned that gear through months of grinding.


Define Pay to Play. Its essence. Then think about why your being barred from looking like the "god" you just described. I want to look like a "god", Bdune. Yeah, I can.. however at the price of a $10 skin and $15 subscription. Preposterous.
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Bdunc on 05/17/2012, 07:14 AM - view
stfu there's nothing gamebreaking about these items. If you can't afford them tough toenails...suck it up and get a f*cking life. Weapons skins, race change, changing your looks does not affect you in any way shape or form. If EME wants to make a few extra dollars on the side from players willing to spend more then good for them, everyone is looking for a way to make extra money. Everyone is a damn baby nowadays no one just plays a game and enjoys it, most people here probably voted for obama from the looks of it.


Only a total moronic F*cktard could link issues surrounding an international fantasy MMO to the current president of the USA. Just sayin'...
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paying to play means you have to give them money in order to play. F2P means you can just download the game make an account and get on and start leveling. cash shop is completely and totally optional in any game. It's like paying to go to disney world and then seeing shops inside disney world selling expensive vanity items such as t-shirts, coffee cup mugs, photoshots on rollercoasters, autograph books to get signed by disney characters, etc etc. You have to PAY to get in but everything else from there that costs money is optional


starharrier: u mad bro?
Edited by: Bdunc about 1 year ago
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StarHarrier on 05/17/2012, 07:42 AM - view
Bdunc on 05/17/2012, 07:14 AM
stfu there's nothing gamebreaking about these items. If you can't afford them tough toenails...suck it up and get a f*cking life. Weapons skins, race change, changing your looks does not affect you in any way shape or form. If EME wants to make a few extra dollars on the side from players willing to spend more then good for them, everyone is looking for a way to make extra money. Everyone is a damn baby nowadays no one just plays a game and enjoys it, most people here probably voted for obama from the looks of it.


Only a total moronic F*cktard could link issues surrounding an international fantasy MMO to the current president of the USA. Just sayin'...


He's not representative of us... or our culture... he's just someone who needs to leave Earth.
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http://store.enmasse.com/store/tera/html/pbPage.PremiumServices/ThemeID.19945700?resid=T7UNpQoBAlcAAFsJYOgAAAAh&rests=1337265572924

I am going to cancel my sub once my time runs out, I am not going to pay for FEATURES that should be part of the game as a paying consumer. This game is no longer Pay 2 Play vanity or not it is Pay 2 Enjoy.

I would pay if it required a GM to help me change my Name, or Appearance, but it doesn't it uses an automated system to make these changes, and they should be part of the game as a paying consumer not billed seperately, there are only certain things that should be charged for IF it requires a GM to help the players otherwise it should be Free.

Now enmasse can either drop the costs on the features that should be part of the game, or I just might file a complaint to the BBB.ORG over this because I was under the impression that I was not going to have to pay extra money to Enjoy this game my way.

If they wish to remove my post they can do so from their forums but I am already posting across multiple Tera boards outside of this game company about this.
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SeraElf on 05/17/2012, 07:38 AM - view
Ukaei on 05/17/2012, 07:25 AM


You do know this is the first P2P game I can come up out of the top of my head that is selling cosmetic gear for cash? Don't you see something horribly wrong with that? Don't you feel wronged!? A cry for justice! You might say.. well, WOW sells mounts and pets! Well, Bdune, their just mounts and pets, but WOW isn't selling skins gear that's nearly or better as good as the 1337 gear you get from playing the game. The vanity skins I'm sure will get so good, so good since they are worth real money after all.. that they'll eventually put in game gear to shame.


It isn't the first. Of just the MMOs I have recently played in the past 2 years: EQ2, Aion, and UO did/do it too. I'm fairly certain there are others. Fluff is fluff. Pets and mounts are fluff, WoW isn't any "better". It seems that your concern it mostly around these skins being better looking than other gear. First, that's completely subjective. I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't think that highly of the skins. Second, how do you know that there won't be "better" looking weapon skins available in-game at some point too? These are merely options for people who want them, they aren't meant to replace gear.

Also, "Cash shops" in P2P games have been around for years now, I don't understand why people still think it's a F2P thing. It's not, not anymore.


I can guarantee! 100%! If vanity cosmetic skins are kept, they will eventually be superior than their in game counter parts. Simply because.. very simple.. because they are worth real MONEY.

EDIT: Please keep in mind that one of the strong points this game boast is its aesthetic looks. Being barred from certain looks because of greed to charge for it on top of a subscription is wrong. Just wrong.
Edited by: Ukaei about 1 year ago
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Bdunc on 05/17/2012, 07:45 AM - view
paying to play means you have to give them money in order to play. F2P means you can just download the game make an account and get on and start leveling. cash shop is completely and totally optional in any game. It's like paying to go to disney world and then seeing shops inside disney world selling expensive vanity items such as t-shirts, coffee cup mugs, photoshots on rollercoasters, autograph books to get signed by disney characters, etc etc. You have to PAY to get in but everything else from there that costs money is optional


starharrier: u mad bro?


Nah, I'm good ty...you?