Cloth... Plate... Plate... Cloth...

woodhouse Profile Options #41

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Alkirin on 06/06/2012, 12:46 PM - view
Token system would fix this issue. It would provide a safety net to the worst case of RNG by guaranteeing a minimum degree of progression.

Granted, it is still a facegrind, but at least it wouldn't be an absolute waste of time.

this. atleat you know there is somthing at the end of that rainbow
netharex Profile Options #42

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I completely agree with this post and have had the same luck all through out the entirety of my lvling and dungeon experiences, i play as an archer and rarely ever see any leather drops, now i have a alt lancer and berserker and have had a tremendous change in luck, ran a few dungeon on my lancer and ended up with gear for both it and the zerker. please would be nice to re-randomize the drop rates or lvl them to be equal.
WFW4YTXXEK Profile Options #43

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For me the drop rates seem fine.

I've run fane more times than i can count on my lancer (go go instant queue) as still never seen the BP drop. I ended up buying one /shrug. I've seen cloth and leather many many times. Weapons, I've gotten 1 lance from Fane in all my runs, see warrior swords damm near every run though.

Your argument that leather is more expensive on the AH is void. Thats supply and demand. There are more leather users than cloth / plate so demand is higher. Compound that with the fact that half the plate and cloth wearers get much faster queues (Lancer / priest / mystic) and are unlikely to buy thier gear until irritation sets in (they know they have a fast queue .. why pay for it?) means that demand is lower.

Now yes you can get 3 leather users in one group which you cant with any other armor type (Priest / mystic share a role, so one of them +sorc, and lancer zerker) and that kinda suxs and all. Thems the breaks though. Suggesting that EME should make leather drop more often because more people play a leather class, or theres a *chance* there will be 3 leather wearers in the group is unreasonable. You think its fair that more leather drops just b/c you picked an over popular archtype? You think its fair on the sorc / healer / zerker / lancer + 1 leather groups that more leather drops b/c there *could have been* 3 leather in the group? Get real.

I have a 60 warrior too btw, shes not as well geared as my lancer but getting there. I've seen leather drop in fane and BT on her too. The fact that leather is pricey on the AH because of demand, or occasionally I get in a 3 leather group, does not make me rant for more leather drops. I happen to play the lancer and a 58 priest as well .. i'm not gonna be happy gearing every random leather wearer with drops if they increase the drop rate just to put a stop to the endless whining.

In short, the drops are fine. RNG is RNG, deal with it. Run a guild group and stop losing rolls to pugs who already have the gear and are just throwing it on the AH or worst still, using it for enchanting fodder.
Edvardelis Profile Options #44

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As a Sorcerer I've lost track of the number of times I've run Fane.

I've seen the gloves drop twice, the boots drop once, and I have never seen the robes drop.
Alkirin Profile Options #45

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WFW4YTXXEK on 06/06/2012, 01:03 PM - view
For me the drop rates seem fine.

I've run fane more times than i can count on my lancer (go go instant queue) as still never seen the BP drop. I ended up buying one /shrug. I've seen cloth and leather many many times. Weapons, I've gotten 1 lance from Fane in all my runs, see warrior swords damm near every run though.

Your argument that leather is more expensive on the AH is void. Thats supply and demand. There are more leather users than cloth / plate so demand is higher. Compound that with the fact that half the plate and cloth wearers get much faster queues (Lancer / priest / mystic) and are unlikely to buy thier gear until irritation sets in (they know they have a fast queue .. why pay for it?) means that demand is lower.

Now yes you can get 3 leather users in one group which you cant with any other armor type (Priest / mystic share a role, so one of them +sorc, and lancer zerker) and that kinda suxs and all. Thems the breaks though. Suggesting that EME should make leather drop more often because more people play a leather class, or theres a *chance* there will be 3 leather wearers in the group is unreasonable. You think its fair that more leather drops just b/c you picked an over popular archtype? You think its fair on the sorc / healer / zerker / lancer + 1 leather groups that more leather drops b/c there *could have been* 3 leather in the group? Get real.

I have a 60 warrior too btw, shes not as well geared as my lancer but getting there. I've seen leather drop in fane and BT on her too. The fact that leather is pricey on the AH because of demand, or occasionally I get in a 3 leather group, does not make me rant for more leather drops. I happen to play the lancer and a 58 priest as well .. i'm not gonna be happy gearing every random leather wearer with drops if they increase the drop rate just to put a stop to the endless whining.

In short, the drops are fine. RNG is RNG, deal with it. Run a guild group and stop losing rolls to pugs who already have the gear and are just throwing it on the AH or worst still, using it for enchanting fodder.


You are missing the entire point of the argument that you are addressing.

More leather users + low leather drop rate = AH inflation.

The AH reflects the problem, it is a symptom, not the core cause. Leather shares three classes over the two split between the remaining four. An 'even' distribution would slightly weight leather just to keep rates 'equal' across the number of classes available.
xGrunty Profile Options #46

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Last night on my Archer I got gold gloves and a gold bow in one run.
Dazlin Profile Options #47

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Well for me on my sorc in about 40-50 fane runs I never seen a cloth drop. On my Lancer I've gotten 1 enig out of many runs and saw leather drop almost every time.

And leather is much more expensive because there is a billion people playing leather classes.

I ended up having to buy all my gear for both sorc and lancer btw, gave up on the dungeon [filtered].
Edited by: Dazlin 11 months ago