You know what OP? [filtered] you. [filtered] you, and [filtered] the horse you rode in on. [filtered] your damage parser. [filtered] your attitude. [filtered] your face.

DPS meters would only give "proof" to players who already hold that this is somehow a metric of the actual required performance in the game. In games where DPS is the only way to really compare damage-dealing classes, where some are given deficits they must operate with (as in WoW, where hybrids are given inherent "taxes"), then this makes sense in many ways. But this isn't WoW. I know you guys like the way this worked in WoW, but I feel you are blinding yourselves -- either intentionally or not -- for the sake of furthering your perspective.

You [meaning meters-supporters] claim meters are important, but the only reasoning you use is that it "separates out the 'baddies'" or that the classes are somehow imbalanced. Neither of these things is true with the exception of the latter as it applies to the final 5-10 levels of Archers in PvE content (in PvP, they still rock on the battlefield and do it just like the rest of them).

In the first case, the "separation of the 'baddies'" is highly subjective, and misses the point of the way damage dealing classes in this game work. Not only is the content designed to prioritize survival over damage, different classes actual sacrifice overall "attack" and "power" for the sake of either mobility, range, endurance, and evasion. These things tend to moderated in how the class plays, meaning that classes are generally different on a broad array of factors. Damage, as a flat output, becomes irrelevant when you focus a damage-dealer on Impact because this means the more time the mob spends on its back on stomach, the less time it has interfering with the rest of the party. Moreover, actual time stunning and knocking down enemies comes at a direct sacrifice to damage, as the abilities that provide these effects themselves are usually weak in damage, even if they are effective in power -- and only so when you glyph them to make them have more power over all.

In the second case, the only issues that exist at endgame in PvE are Archer survivability and low damage output and Berserker mobility. Damage for Zerks is NOT an issue. Archers still rock in PvP, as do Zerks. Portions of these are deficits the classes have for being either range fighters with evasion, or being a plate class with high durability and a block. It is not difficult to notice where the flaws in a class come from when they are played correctly, ideally, perfectly, and still fail to shape up. But implicit with this is that there is somehow supposed to be an ideal point at which a damage-dealing class SHOULD be, some metric that aligns these classes together, and I fail to see where the reasoning supports this! So far, there has been an enormous lack fo qualification on the argumentation that the meters will help improve overall class BALANCE; merely its assertion by the assumption that somehow this will SHOW the developers the errors of their ways.

What HUBRIS!

The argument for meters fails again, and continues to fail.

This Isn't WoW©

But it IS a metric to hold people to. "This game is more about movement and reacting to the battlefield!" Yes, yes it is! If someone is trying to cheese the meters we'll know because they will end up D E A D. Now if person A does more damage than person B (same class), AND they both survive just as well, then person A is doing a better job and might be able to teach person B better ways to play their class.

You keep bringing up Archer DPS. How do we know that's true? Meters give us direct information to hand to the people who can change things, everything else is, to use a term thrown out incorrectly earlier, hearsay.

Is more dps better? Absolutely. Does a dps meter always portray the whole story? No.

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Is more dps better? Absolutely. Does a dps meter always portray the whole story? No.

A DPS meters always portrays the totality of the DPS story.

As long as you're not a 50 IQ dumb[filtered] retard, it's a great tool.