EME, this is not Korea, remove temporary items.

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I have serious issues with the temporary dye system. Koreans tend to like temporary items because they highly regulate their play time. Most of them play in internet cafes, and pay by the hour, both for the computer, and the game.

In western countries, we tend to play in our homes, and whenever we find the time available. Temporary items then, for us, makes our much more relaxed attitude a detriment. How is it good to punish people for playing the game?

No game has doen this before, it is just silly. RIFT had one fo the best customization options i have ever seen, and i beg of you to look at it and examine why they did it... because ill tell you now, it was very well received. Nobody complains about rifts dye system.

Numerous time i have heard the argument that it is a gold sink, but that is simply ludicrous. At levels where you gain hundreds of gold an hour... what is 50 silver? and 1 gold for 7 days worth of dye? This is NOT a gold sink and is just annoying. Seriously, i do not want to log on and realize, oh, i had better check my dye timer. It is a massive nuisance.

On top of this, even if it WAS gold sink, it would only affect those who actually take the time to enjoy their gear. Gold farmers honestly do not care about aesthetics, they care only about utility.

My main issue is the psychological side of it. I do not want to feel like i am being punished for being logged into the game. Even if the cost is trivial, its a frustrating component that i have to repeat for no reason other than "we felt like making it temporary". I also want to feel like the armour is actualy the armour i want it to be, not a piece of armour pretending to be the one i want.

Please EME, i beg of you, change at least some fo the dyes to permanent ones.

You want a gold sink? Then release permanent dyes that cost like, 200 gold. Theres a gold sink right there. Thats 4800 hours of playtime with the current system.

Or, release some crafted dye recipes that are permanent.

There is no real reason for a temporary dye system, and because fo that, all you are doing is annoying your playerbase.
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It's called a money sink. It does its job.
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Cheg on 05/04/2012, 01:05 PM - view
It's called a money sink. It does its job.


I will quote myself here.

Numerous time i have heard the argument that it is a gold sink, but that is simply ludicrous. At levels where you gain hundreds of gold an hour... what is 50 silver? and 1 gold for 7 days worth of dye? This is NOT a gold sink and is just annoying. Seriously, i do not want to log on and realize, oh, i had better check my dye timer. It is a massive nuisance.

On top of this, even if it WAS gold sink, it would only affect those who actually take the time to enjoy their gear. Gold farmers honestly do not care about aesthetics, they care only about utility.


You want a gold sink? Then release permanent dyes that cost like, 200 gold. Theres a gold sink right there. Thats 4800 hours of playtime with the current system.
Edited by: VenomPhoenix about 1 year ago
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Don't make me quote my post again too.
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I agree there needs to be more expensive permanent dyes (and maybe Rarer dyes with fancy colours :P) cause ya Right now it's not a gold sink it's an irritation lol Crafting/Enchanting? THOSE are gold sinks
Cheg on 05/04/2012, 01:08 PM
Don't make me quote my post again too.

how is it a gold sink? 50s doesn't even take 10 seconds to earn I'm getting 3+ gold from MINIONS ffs Gold sinks by definition REQUIRE LARGE SPENDING not pennies
Edited by: Iraeda about 1 year ago
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Cheg on 05/04/2012, 01:08 PM - view
Don't make me quote my post again too.


Explain to me how such a tiny, tiny, trivial amount of gold is in any way a gold sink? It might as well cost 1 copper, it does not impact in any meaningful way.
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I've seen a game or two with this system, as well as a timer on costumes. The permanent versions usually cost a lot more for the same thing. If we had the choice of having either or I think that'd satisfy people more. What if I just wanna try the color out (I've never dyed before) and I don't want to waste 200g (per dye) to dye my stuff.
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Iraeda on 05/04/2012, 01:09 PM - view
I agree there needs to be more expensive permanent dyes (and maybe Rarer dyes with fancy colours :P) cause ya Right now it's not a gold sink it's an irritation lol Crafting/Enchanting? THOSE are gold sinks


Lol, yes. Now THOSE are gold sinks. costs ~250 gold in alkahest for one attempt at +7-+9, plus the cost of the item you would use (for tier 12).

Crafting i havent even tried to get over 250 each, but the recipes sure get expensive. I saw a superior axe, level 52, and it needed 333 titan rune, lol!

Dyes are chump change and are just annoying.
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Lunaus on 05/04/2012, 01:12 PM - view
I've seen a game or two with this system, as well as a timer on costumes. The permanent versions usually cost a lot more for the same thing. If we had the choice of having either or I think that'd satisfy people more. What if I just wanna try the color out (I've never dyed before) and I don't want to waste 200g (per dye) to dye my stuff.


Yes, thats why i am a fan of them adding permanent dyes. You can use temp dyes to find the colour you like, then use the permanent one. Its not always enough to see the preview because you cant do all 3 armour slots at once to see how they mesh.
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Iraeda on 05/04/2012, 01:09 PM - view
I agree there needs to be more expensive permanent dyes (and maybe Rarer dyes with fancy colours :P) cause ya Right now it's not a gold sink it's an irritation lol Crafting/Enchanting? THOSE are gold sinks
Cheg on 05/04/2012, 01:08 PM
Don't make me quote my post again too.

how is it a gold sink? 50s doesn't even take 10 seconds to earn I'm getting 3+ gold from MINIONS ffs Gold sinks by definition REQUIRE LARGE SPENDING not pennies


You can make a dye with allows you to customize the color, its sold from the dye vendor and requires like 12 of each dye pigment and 40 of the green ones. It has custom sliders for fine tuning the color you want :D it however is only good for 7 days like the rest :/