EME; you need to explain yourself to your community for this - screenshots included!

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Crosbie on 05/30/2012, 05:39 AM - view
So yea, like Ellyidol said; whether it was the player's fault for allowing access to the GBank or not, the GMs throwing salt in the wound by replying like that is just unnecessary.

All they had to say was "I'm really sorry, we understand you're frustrated, but like I've said - there's nothing we can do to help..."

It would suck. And it would be a really bitter & jagged pill to swallow, but there's no need to give the guy a beaker of acid to wash that taste away with..


They did... I counted three times with the original GM and once with the new one before anything 'rude' was said. Then they repeated themselves after the 'do as you please'. It really should have ended right after GM Metatron first reply.
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That's my point. If they don't have the patience to deal with difficult customers who press them, then they shouldn't be in a customer facing job at all. By default, that is what their job is. If they don't want to do it, then they should quit.
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Suricatta on 05/30/2012, 05:43 AM - view
Crosbie on 05/30/2012, 05:39 AM
So yea, like Ellyidol said; whether it was the player's fault for allowing access to the GBank or not, the GMs throwing salt in the wound by replying like that is just unnecessary.

All they had to say was "I'm really sorry, we understand you're frustrated, but like I've said - there's nothing we can do to help..."

It would suck. And it would be a really bitter & jagged pill to swallow, but there's no need to give the guy a beaker of acid to wash that taste away with..


They did... I counted three times with the original GM and once with the new one before anything 'rude' was said. Then they repeated themselves after the 'do as you please'. It really should have ended right after GM Metatron first reply.


I agree, it should have.

No doubt that the blame is on the guild on this one, I completely agree. It doesn't matter if it's a flaw or not, since you would have known that the flaw exists yet pushed through anyway.

It's sad, really, that the issue had to be pushed until the human side of the GMs took over. I can't blame them, but it could have been handled better. Which is again, just sad that it had to turn out this way.
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Firstly, on topic.
I AM a member of thirsty who disagrees with Garbuk that it's GM responsibility to take care of this issue (unless they've done it for other guilds before in similar cases).

However, regardless of provocation or trolling, it is the job of a customer service representative to handle irate customers. You are trained for it, and hopefully patience is a quality for which your supervisor interviewed you before you get the job. There is absolutely no excuse for this breach of professionalism, it wouldn't matter if Garbuk had called him three kinds of racial slurs and threatened to have him fired directly. It's even EASIER to deal with these people over text based CS programs vs live or by phone because you have the option to take back what you say before you transmit it. There is NO EXCUSE for this kind of behavior from a professional company. However, nothing En Masse has produced thus far has projected strict professionalism, so it should be expected at this point.

Having worked CS, and knowing what kind of trouble that kind of attitude can get you in if the customer refuses to let it go, I admire the balls on the CS representative. If the company does give a damn about making money or its customers, he will be receiving a hefty reprimand. It falls upon CS at this point to issue Garbuk an apology before he takes this slight to more public forums like facebook or reddit.


Now off topic...

KonpakuYoumu on 05/30/2012, 05:32 AM - view
That's your best shot? What a joke.

I can not stress enough just how stupid this entire thread makes you look.


Given your response to every post in this thread it's obvious why you agree with this sham of a representation of customer service.

Enjoy your life of being perpetually fired(if you even plan to hold a job) because no one can stand your attitude.


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Thirsty needs to stop being a bunch of little whiney babies and accept the fact that they not only failed to read a policy that is Common in ALL MMOs, but also went as low as to acting completely ignorant and disrespectful to En Masse in the Live Chats.


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Most people here that thinks this is a "Standard response", you obviously never worked in a professional environment. This type of treatment/response to customer is not acceptable.

That GM's attitude is what gets you fired in any professional career. So I do dare you act like this GM's attitude on your career job in the future if you ever get one, this will ruin your reputation among with other sister companies you work for.

Cheers
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You're position is that the GM should have kissed the customer's behind and your butt hurt that the GM did not, despite the customer's own obnoxious behavior, so you come to the game's forum to complain about it?

The GM did not curse or say anything bad. He just simply ended the conversation. You're just coming off as a spoiled entitled brat and it really doesn't become you.
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Crosbie on 05/30/2012, 05:42 AM
That's where you're wrong. They get PAID to listen and mediate customer issues, not aggrivate them. IT IS THEIR JOB. It doesn't matter if the customer is or is not giving them attitude. They can either politely eject themselves from the conversation or they can try to calm the situation.

Right, and that is what they did.

I read the whole convo posted below the screenshots. Can you quote which GM comments you thought were inappropriate? I did not see any that even approached rude. The GMs started off diplomatic, and when Garbuk attempted to change the facts and put words in their mouths, they ended the conversation.
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LinaInnverse on 05/30/2012, 05:47 AM - view
Firstly, on topic.
I AM a member of thirsty who disagrees with Garbuk that it's GM responsibility to take care of this issue (unless they've done it for other guilds before in similar cases).

However, regardless of provocation or trolling, it is the job of a customer service representative to handle irate customers. You are trained for it, and hopefully patience is a quality for which your supervisor interviewed you before you get the job. There is absolutely no excuse for this breach of professionalism, it wouldn't matter if Garbuk had called him three kinds of racial slurs and threatened to have him fired directly. It's even EASIER to deal with these people over text based CS programs vs live or by phone because you have the option to take back what you say before you transmit it. There is NO EXCUSE for this kind of behavior from a professional company. However, nothing En Masse has produced thus far has projected strict professionalism, so it should be expected at this point.

Having worked CS, and knowing what kind of trouble that kind of attitude can get you in if the customer refuses to let it go, I admire the balls on the CS representative. If the company does give a damn about making money or its customers, he will be receiving a hefty reprimand. It falls upon CS at this point to issue Garbuk an apology before he takes this slight to more public forums like facebook or reddit.


Now off topic...

KonpakuYoumu on 05/30/2012, 05:32 AM
That's your best shot? What a joke.

I can not stress enough just how stupid this entire thread makes you look.


Given your response to every post in this thread it's obvious why you agree with this sham of a representation of customer service.

Enjoy your life of being perpetually fired(if you even plan to hold a job) because no one can stand your attitude.




Sorry I see no Sham here... just a Normal GM... under the Circumstances I think the GM did a hell of a job...

I for one think you guys should leave the GM alone and let him do his damn Job.... I would like to see you stay as calm as this GM has if you have to talk to 100s if not 1000s of players each day that are rude and inconsiderate and keep bugging you over the same topic after you have given em an answer....
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Crosbie on 05/30/2012, 05:44 AM - view
That's my point. If they don't have the patience to deal with difficult customers who press them, then they shouldn't be in a customer facing job at all. By default, that is what their job is. If they don't want to do it, then they should quit.


I disagree.

No one should ever have to deal with rude or difficult customers. Considering how little customer service get paid compared to the rest of the company, they don't get paid enough to deal with it either.

If you want good customer service, be a good customer. I've never been spoken to in a rude fashion ever, and it's probably because I am always polite and treat the other person like a equal that wants to help me. Difficult customers aren't just annoying, they are impossible to help. If you want someone to help you, you must first help them to help you.

No one should ever expect to be able to treat another human being like crap and expect them to just sit there and take it because 'it's their job'.

What is wrong with this world?