Quote: LordSteel1 on 03/29/2012, 02:07 PM

It's simple there Is NO need EVER for cash-shops what-so-ever. Cash shop DO lead to PAY TO WIN. It also PUTS IN PLACE a mechanic which makes for the game to go FTP In the future, not that I beleave that will happen. If you want Vanity items all well and good, but we should be able to obtain them ingame somehow. Holidays and events are just two such ways. We should be able to obtain anything ingame with NO need for any type of cashshop, SIMPLE.

Just to point out how slippery this slope is...

You state that there is simple no need ever for Cash Shops, and then go on to mention ways you'd find them to be acceptable.

Furthermore - what you consider a Cash Shop might be entirely different to someone else. There is no clear definition of what a Cash Shop is and is not.

Quote: VenomPhoenix on 03/29/2012, 02:10 PM

Wow you missed the whole point.

The point is that NOW you can get as many t-coins as you want by buying them in the store. They even come with a bonus set of sunglasses. Yipee.

When everyone was on equal ground with limited access to t-coins, there is not a problem. It is when it becomes a "spend more money, win more often" that it becomes a serious problem.

Name one item in that store that gives you a unfair advantage in combat that can't be done by any other item in the game that can normally be gotten.

Name one item in that store that gives you a unfair advantage in combat that can't be done by any other item in the game that can normally be gotten.

Cash shop with vanity items - Everyone is happy and looks good.

Cash shop with mechanic changing items - People who pay the most win.

Quote: VenomPhoenix on 03/29/2012, 02:10 PM

Wow you missed the whole point.

The point is that NOW you can get as many t-coins as you want by buying them in the store. They even come with a bonus set of sunglasses. Yipee.

When everyone was on equal ground with limited access to t-coins, there is not a problem. It is when it becomes a "spend more money, win more often" that it becomes a serious problem.

Name one item in that store that gives you a unfair advantage in combat that can't be done by any other item in the game that can normally be gotten.

Quote: MadcatGTs on 03/29/2012, 02:12 PM

Quote: VenomPhoenix on 03/29/2012, 02:10 PM

Wow you missed the whole point.

The point is that NOW you can get as many t-coins as you want by buying them in the store. They even come with a bonus set of sunglasses. Yipee.

When everyone was on equal ground with limited access to t-coins, there is not a problem. It is when it becomes a "spend more money, win more often" that it becomes a serious problem.

Name one item in that store that gives you a unfair advantage in combat that can't be done by any other item in the game that can normally be gotten.

Protecting your crystals from breaking.

buy horse -> get tcat coins as 'bonus' -> buy 100% res scroll -> win gvg battle, claim territory -> repeat

Those who choose not to buy a horse is at a disadvantage in the game.

Quote: Fatwa on 03/29/2012, 02:11 PM

Quote: LordSteel1 on 03/29/2012, 02:07 PM

It's simple there Is NO need EVER for cash-shops what-so-ever. Cash shop DO lead to PAY TO WIN. It also PUTS IN PLACE a mechanic which makes for the game to go FTP In the future, not that I beleave that will happen. If you want Vanity items all well and good, but we should be able to obtain them ingame somehow. Holidays and events are just two such ways. We should be able to obtain anything ingame with NO need for any type of cashshop, SIMPLE.

Just to point out how slippery this slope is...

You state that there is simple no need ever for Cash Shops, and then go on to mention ways you'd find them to be acceptable.

Furthermore - what you consider a Cash Shop might be entirely different to someone else. There is no clear definition of what a Cash Shop is and is not.

Cash shop with vanity items - Everyone is happy and looks good.

Cash shop with mechanic changing items - People who pay the most win.