Elin Berserkers have a longer reach Thunder Strike than other races.

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so basically for certain skills like Thunder strike, Elin's have a longer reach, smaller hitbox and lock-on size, and move during attacks, making them harder to hit.

its totally imbalanced.
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they have the same reach, they just step forward into their attack more as well as having artificially large weapon hitboxes because their weapons are smaller, the reach of all the combo attacks is approximately the same. Aiming is too easy as all projectiles have insanely huge hitboxes. There was a chart showing all of this but I cannot find it. Elin are definitely not OP, it is humans who are. Human racials are clearly imbalanced giving them a significant pvp advantage, if you want an advantage play human.
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I'm not talking about combo attack or any other attack or class.
I'm talking about a berserker skill called thunder strike.
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I do believe that combo attack, cyclone, and flatten are about the same reach.
But for some reason with Thunder Strike, Elin's have a much longer thunder strike....
I think its just a design error.... not sure.
Edited by: greengrunt about 1 year ago
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greengrunt on 03/31/2012, 12:50 PM - view
I do believe that combo attack, cyclone, and flatten are about the same reach.
But for some reason with Thunder Strike, Elin's have a much longer thunder strike....
I think its just a design error.... not sure.


Again, it would be nice if you had some video evidence of that so we can all see...
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here, fresh from EU forums:



just to give everyone an idea how messed up it is to give elins more reach on anything.

actually it is messed up that there is absolutely no sane reason to roll a bigger race at all and that you are at substancial constant disadvantage while doing so. in wow the taurens at least had a couple of meters more reach to compensate for their large frames(while living through hell in BGs and mass pvp). Aion also gave small characters less reach on their attacks, which i witnessed myself and which was also easily demonstrated.
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hurfmurf on 03/31/2012, 01:06 PM - view
here, fresh from EU forums:



just to give everyone an idea how messed up it is to give elins more reach on anything.

actually it is messed up that there is absolutely no sane reason to roll a bigger race at all and that you are at substancial constant disadvantage while doing so. in wow the taurens at least had a couple of meters more reach to compensate for their large frames(while living through hell in BGs and mass pvp). Aion also gave small characters less reach on their attacks, which i witnessed myself and which was also easily demonstrated.


it looks like you just drew squares around character models.
1) Elin DO NOT have more reach
2) EME themselves stated that they changed the hitboxes so it's bigger for smaller races and smaller for larger races.
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ilovelolis on 03/31/2012, 01:11 PM - view
it looks like you just drew squares around character models.
1) Elin DO NOT have more reach
2) EME themselves stated that they changed the hitboxes so it's bigger for smaller races and smaller for larger races.


They did say something at one point or another that reach is different. But I only assumed it meant reach was balanced to be the same from the center of the character. It seems weird that some races would have a longer reach, especially by something like 2m, as someone suggested.
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ilovelolis on 03/31/2012, 01:11 PM - view
hurfmurf on 03/31/2012, 01:06 PM
here, fresh from EU forums:



just to give everyone an idea how messed up it is to give elins more reach on anything.

actually it is messed up that there is absolutely no sane reason to roll a bigger race at all and that you are at substancial constant disadvantage while doing so. in wow the taurens at least had a couple of meters more reach to compensate for their large frames(while living through hell in BGs and mass pvp). Aion also gave small characters less reach on their attacks, which i witnessed myself and which was also easily demonstrated.


it looks like you just drew squares around character models.
1) Elin DO NOT have more reach
2) EME themselves stated that they changed the hitboxes so it's bigger for smaller races and smaller for larger races.



they "Attempted " to scale the hitboxes but we dont know exactly how big of a difference they really scared it to but yea it obviously would be bigger for smaller races to make up for thier size