Elin Berserkers have a longer reach Thunder Strike than other races.

greengrunt Profile Options #201

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yeah so elin's hitbox should be slightly closer to the corner during that test while the aman is further out? but yet the elin's thunder strike STILL goes much further.... what does it matter?

even though the center of the Elin's hitbox may be closer to the corner than the Aman's, the thunder strike still goes further than the Aman's.
Edited by: greengrunt about 1 year ago
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I just watched a bunch of youtube videos and noticed that every race except the Aman male will leap while doing thunder strike, even the Baraka leaps forwards just like a human or castanic.....
I think this is why the aman has a shorter reach, whats the reason for this?

My assumption before going into more testing is that the Humans/Baraka/Castanic/High Elf all share about the same range on thunder strike, while the Elin has the longest because they over-leap, and the Aman the shortest because they dont leap at all.( I noticed the female aman does leap, but the male aman does not.)

I didnt include popori because I am unsure about theirs.
I just browsed youtube and looked at all the races on random tera berserker videos, but they were all from NA CBT.
Edited by: greengrunt about 1 year ago
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greengrunt on 04/03/2012, 02:51 PM - view
yeah so elin's hitbox should be slightly closer to the corner during that test while the aman is further out? but yet the elin's thunder strike STILL goes much further.... what does it matter?

even though the center of the Elin's hitbox may be closer to the corner than the Aman's, the thunder strike still goes further than the Aman's.


It would still diminish the actual distance the elins hit in excess. If the Elins start from further back then some of their excess reach distance will have to make up for it, hiding the true extent of their longer reach.
Edited by: VenomPhoenix about 1 year ago
greengrunt Profile Options #204

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if they just let Aman's leap forward like a human or baraka, and shortened the Elin's leap by a bit, I think it would be fairly balanced...
greengrunt Profile Options #205

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EME please look into race balance within certain clases like the Berserker.
Edited by: greengrunt about 1 year ago
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VenomPhoenix on 04/03/2012, 02:08 PM - view
I dont get why people think backing INTO a corner amkes things even...

We know Elins have a smaller hitbox, so the center of their hitbox would now be closer to the wall...

When measuring range you dont measure from the back of the hitbox to the front of the attack, you emasure from the centre of the hitbox.

As pointed out already, if the character hitboxes are skewed off center from the avatar, then it is somehting that needs adjustment.


This would only suggest that the issue is even worse because the distance the center of the model travels would be even greater.
Edited by: BrowncoatBlue about 1 year ago - Reason: Correction
greengrunt Profile Options #207

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This is kinda off topic but has anyone noticed that the Popori Berserker's second combo attack is much different than other races?
Ioci Profile Options #208

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I don't understand complaints like this. I should spend hours figuring out the tells of a Bam to kill it in PvE but taking a few hrs to learn the tells of an Elin over a Castanic is immediately viewed as unfair. You want racial identity but you don't want them to acually be different?

This is called gaming. It's only an advantage of you don't know the damage cone of an Elin. It's only an advantage if you didn't know Amani female made a subtle gesture before they riopped your head off. Learn or burn.
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greengrunt on 04/04/2012, 05:35 PM - view
This is kinda off topic but has anyone noticed that the Popori Berserker's second combo attack is much different than other races?


Yes.

It is not just the auto attack, which is pretty bad compared to the rest of the races. All of their special abilities have unique animations which really don't flow very well. The most prominent one is Thunderstrike.
Edited by: Uchikoma about 1 year ago
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Ioci on 04/04/2012, 07:12 PM - view
I don't understand complaints like this. I should spend hours figuring out the tells of a Bam to kill it in PvE but taking a few hrs to learn the tells of an Elin over a Castanic is immediately viewed as unfair. You want racial identity but you don't want them to acually be different?

This is called gaming. It's only an advantage of you don't know the damage cone of an Elin. It's only an advantage if you didn't know Amani female made a subtle gesture before they riopped your head off. Learn or burn.


I shouldn't have to learn the tells of an Elin character when every other race has a maximum attack distance of 3 meters for Berserker attacks. If this is truly the case, this gives Elin players an advantage that no other race has.

And if you want to talk about tells and advantages and disadvantages, perhaps they should reintroduce attack ranges before they were normalized. This way my huge baraka has his 7m axe swing while your puny Elin only has 4-5m. But it's okay though, because the size of the race justifies it! You just need to l2play!
Edited by: Uchikoma about 1 year ago