Elin vs Aman Thunder Strike Imbalance.

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phantazum on 04/08/2012, 09:11 PM - view
Ohh is there hit box 10% smaller lets see some proof? What about lock on spells, which is what the worst of the immobilizes are? Generally the hit box only saves you from damage.

And you made it about overall imbalances when you asked what the popori got and brought hit boxes in to it.

If you dont like your racials, dont roll a Baraka. Stop crying about it already. You choose the biggest race in the game, live with it. Every race has their ups and downs as long as the races are different.


That's a horrendous argument.

"Don't roll race X because ____" shouldn't be said, ever.

And my icon ≠ the race I'm playing...
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Doesnt really matter what you are playing. If its not an Elin or a Popori you have racials that aid you in combat.
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If I'm not mistaken, aren't Elins slightly faster as berserkers and lancers also? IIRC, I saw a video comparing the atk spd before... don't remember where though.
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phantazum on 04/08/2012, 09:22 PM - view
Doesnt really matter what you are playing. If its not an Elin or a Popori you have racials that aid you in combat.


And as has been said over a dozen times now, elin have a passive racial that says "10% to avoid being hit" that is ALWAYS ON.

I would MUCH rather have that than a once every 2 hours skill that will help me ONCE in ONE BG.

Also, baraka's full heal is the only seriously useful skill of all the other racials. Increased knockdown resist = who cares.
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HTakara82 on 04/08/2012, 09:23 PM - view
If I'm not mistaken, aren't Elins slightly faster as berserkers and lancers also? IIRC, I saw a video comparing the atk spd before... don't remember where though.


Elin and Amani swing their axe faster than the other races. 100% guaranteed. I tested that for hours this weekend.

Anyone who thinks having a longer reach and a smaller hitbox is equal to or less important than a once per hour full HP switch doesn't deserve to be replied to in this thread any more. Wouldn't you say, Destian? Or do you still think he'd ever in a hundred years admit he was wrong with your spotlight on him?
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And we come full circle, again. Show me where it says its 10% smaller. A passive resist is just as useful as a smaller hit box. From what I have seen the hit box difference is almost non existent. Amani should have their range increase But between the Elin and other races, there is hardly enough difference to care.
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phantazum on 04/08/2012, 09:27 PM - view
And we come full circle, again. Show me where it says its 10% smaller. A passive resist is just as useful as a smaller hit box. From what I have seen the hit box difference is almost non existent. Amani should have their range increase But between the Elin and other races, there is hardly enough difference to care.


They're normalized, but there is still a difference.

In any case, there shouldn't be any race with further reach, unless the race has a LARGER hitbox to compensate.
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That's pretty disappointing. I really do not want to play an Elin Berserker, but having a longer reach on my most important skill is too good to ignore. I saw it mentioned that they have faster animations too.
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Destian on 04/08/2012, 09:57 PM - view
phantazum on 04/08/2012, 09:27 PM
And we come full circle, again. Show me where it says its 10% smaller. A passive resist is just as useful as a smaller hit box. From what I have seen the hit box difference is almost non existent. Amani should have their range increase But between the Elin and other races, there is hardly enough difference to care.


They're normalized, but there is still a difference.

In any case, there shouldn't be any race with further reach, unless the race has a LARGER hitbox to compensate.


You keep making up information to try to strengthen your case and all you are doing is making your self in to a liar.

Again, Elins hit box is to make up for their lack of racials. You may as well drop the subject. You wont be getting a larger reach just because of that. You have combat racials, Welcome to balance.
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phantazum on 04/08/2012, 10:04 PM - view
You keep making up information to try to strengthen your case and all you are doing is making your self in to a liar.

Again, Elins hit box is to make up for their lack of racials. You may as well drop the subject. You wont be getting a larger reach just because of that. You have combat racials, Welcome to balance.


EME stated that larger races should have slightly greater range to compensate for their slightly larger hitboxes.

Doesn't seem that's the case, but that IS what they said.

Frankly, I suspect we're all arguing for nothing until QoA2 hits with the BG revamp and fixes all of the PvP issues that are supposedly in the game.