Fix the queue times, let warriors tank.

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The real problem is not a single one of you could be bothered to roll a lancer to try and fix the que problem you just complain.
I couldn't tank with my warrior endgame so I rolled a lancer, problem solved.

...and I still have the warrior down the road when they fix the problem.
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phantazum on 06/13/2012, 04:44 PM - view
Seyon on 06/13/2012, 04:10 PM
do that thing that you said you are in the process of doing?


How about do that thing, were you dont cut your total number of tanks in half when you are trying to launch your game in a new country? Business 101.

Warriors couldn't queue as tanks in Korea either, for someone who's been here so long you don't know much.
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Maguscreed on 06/14/2012, 12:30 AM
Play another class to make up for BHE's ineptitude.


Fanboyism at its best!
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Alesiana on 06/13/2012, 11:47 PM - view
Kinda really hoping they add warrior tanking. I've done multiple NM/HM Runs with warrior tanks they are far superior tanks and should be given the oppertunity to queue as a tank.


The thing they will "add" is total ruin of evasion tanking. Judging from all the videos already released and all the info we already have (thanks Cori !), you won't be really mixing dodging and blocking - as the former always eats stamina first, and roughly 1/3rd of the bar, while the blocking eats only tiny chunk and seems to be damage-independent in cost. Hell, you can't even fall back to dodging if you deplete stamina somewhat for obvious reason - dodge eats stamina first, period.

Essentially what BHS is currently doing, is dumbing warrior gameplay to resemble lancer style and making sure they have no fancy ideas like "maybe I should dodge some hit". And then they will allow queuing.

Of course, you can still go dodgy-style, but that implicitly inhibits block (stamina ....) - how many groups will want that (static or pugs) when you have far superior block in the toolset ?

Enjoy challenging warrior gameplay while it lasts.
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msoltyspl on 06/14/2012, 01:54 AM - view
Alesiana on 06/13/2012, 11:47 PM
Kinda really hoping they add warrior tanking. I've done multiple NM/HM Runs with warrior tanks they are far superior tanks and should be given the oppertunity to queue as a tank.


The thing they will "add" is total ruin of evasion tanking. Judging from all the videos already released and all the info we already have (thanks Cori !), you won't be really mixing dodging and blocking - as the former always eats stamina first, and roughly 1/3rd of the bar, while the blocking eats only tiny chunk and seems to be damage-independent in cost. Hell, you can't even fall back to dodging if you deplete stamina somewhat for obvious reason - dodge eats stamina first, period.

Essentially what BHS is currently doing, is dumbing warrior gameplay to resemble lancer style and making sure they have no fancy ideas like "maybe I should dodge some hit". And then they will allow queuing.

Of course, you can still go dodgy-style, but that implicitly inhibits block (stamina ....) - how many groups will want that (static or pugs) when you have far superior block in the toolset ?

Enjoy challenging warrior gameplay while it lasts.


So then they might remove a star and it will not be the only 5* class. But...But then warriors can't be all pro and stuff and call the other classes easy mode =(
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or..... you could stop complaining and find on-server groups..

i have never had problems finding on-server groups to roll with, and through my time running dungeons while progressing through the game, i have developed a friends list FULL of people who love to run dungeons with me. to the point i have to remove people i dont see regularly to make room on my friend list (side note, 40 friends is a ridiculously small cap).... so not even at endgame yet, i have 40+ people (plus guildmates) who will run dungeons with me. more often than not, it takes maybe 5 minutes or less to organize an entire party from my friends list, 10 tops if i have to find a few pug players to fill in the gaps.

if you are a GOOD warrior tank, and do on-server groups, the people you run with will be willing to run with you in the future. the farther you progress, the more people will be on your list, and you will have no trouble at all finding groups for dungeons.

only reason i can see not to do this, is because you have to type and do more than just click the que button, and wait till it pops.... might be too much work for you, idk.
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Don't get too excited about how wonderful a warrior tank you are. Most of us are willing to run with a warrior tank, since it beats doing no runs at all, not because we prefer warrior tanks. It also saves us from having to roll a tank ourselves.
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Maguscreed on 06/14/2012, 12:30 AM - view
The real problem is not a single one of you could be bothered to roll a lancer to try and fix the que problem you just complain.
I couldn't tank with my warrior endgame so I rolled a lancer, problem solved.

...and I still have the warrior down the road when they fix the problem.


Amen brother...
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Alesiana on 06/13/2012, 11:47 PM - view
Kinda really hoping they add warrior tanking. I've done multiple NM/HM Runs with warrior tanks they are far superior tanks and should be given the oppertunity to queue as a tank.


what's so superior about them? i maybe have encountered bad warriors and whatnot, but i very much prefer lancers who hold mobs in place(so i can sit in mob's backs and utilize all the nice +damage mechanics) and also interrupt lots of nasty stuff(balder endboss sometimes uses an aimbot, i swear!).

warriors on the other hand run around the boss, have issues with several mobs at once, lose aggro, can't leash anything to get stuff off the squishies etc. and i really don't care about their tiny bit of damage they might provide over lancers.
Edited by: hurfmurf 11 months ago
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hurfmurf on 06/14/2012, 05:17 AM - view
Alesiana on 06/13/2012, 11:47 PM
Kinda really hoping they add warrior tanking. I've done multiple NM/HM Runs with warrior tanks they are far superior tanks and should be given the oppertunity to queue as a tank.


what's so superior about them? i maybe have encountered bad warriors and whatnot, but i very much prefer lancers who hold mobs in place(so i can sit in mob's backs and utilize all the nice +damage mechanics) and also interrupt lots of nasty stuff(balder endboss sometimes uses an aimbot, i swear!).

warriors on the other hand run around the boss, have issues with several mobs at once, lose aggro, can't leash anything to get stuff off the squishies etc. and i really don't care about their tiny bit of damage they might provide over lancers.


With how much bosses move around I dont see much difference. Either way you have to time your attacks. Only a really poor player has trouble.