GvG Wars Are Lacking & Boring

Ajido Profile Options #1

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I feel frustrated with the current GvG implementation because I feel it has the potential to be great if just a couple of things are changed, but at the moment it is completely dull and boring.

Problem 1: It's hard to care about your current GvG wars since you can't tell if you're winning or losing and by how much. If I log in and see we have 50 points, it means nothing to me without knowing how much the enemy has. If I can see that we're down by 15 points, maybe it would encourage and excite me to go hunting enemy guild members.

Problem 2: Nothing is gained or lost by winning/losing a GvG war. No thought has to go into declaring a war. Just pick a guild to declare on to give your own guild members something to target.

Problem 3: 24 hours isn't enough time for a real war. There should be an option for 24 hour skirmishes against enemy guilds, and a an option to declare war that lasts say a week. The rewards for winning a war should be greater than a skirmish.

A possible solution to make GvG more interesting would be to add objectives and/or quests. These quests could give XP and gold rewards to players. You could have simpler quests like "Kill 10 enemy guild members", and more specific/difficult ones "Kill 10 enemy guild members around your level", so you don't just farm lowbies. Perhaps they could add capture points in certain zones that you guild has to hold, and as you do you gain points in your GvG war. The points could be in random areas so they don't conflict and overlap with other GvG wars going on.

TL;DR: There are so many ways to improve upon GvG in this game that could change it from not worthwhile to tons of fun. Sure, the game has only been launched for a week but this game has been out in Asia for quite some time now and I'm surprised GvG has been like this as long as it has.
Pyrolight Profile Options #2

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1. Yes being able to compare would be better.

2. No, their should never be rewards for GvG, outside of any that could be tied into Vanarch conquest.

3. Sure the timer could be lengthened.


Rezna Profile Options #3

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gvg needs no reward to it
Chiefster Profile Options #4

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1. Needed

2. I would like that idea, but seeing as the current system allows you to GvG anyone, it would hurt the smaller guilds and the games playerbase.

3. Invalid to me because of our reward differences. But sure they could make a different scroll, which cost more, to declare war on a guild for longer than 24 hours.
SteventheBoss Profile Options #5

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I totally agree with OP on this one 100%. It's as if the developers put no thought into the gvg thing. It's like they said, "Okay, go declare war with a guild, wherever you're at, if you see them, just kill em. Have fun!" Fcking ridiculous. They could at least add like a hot spot where there is a current battle going on, or an alert that someone is fighting. Guildies indicator on the map. Sh*t like that. But nothing.
Nothv13 Profile Options #6

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SteventheBoss on 05/05/2012, 02:47 PM - view
I totally agree with OP on this one 100%. It's as if the developers put no thought into the gvg thing. It's like they said, "Okay, go declare war with a guild, wherever you're at, if you see them, just kill em. Have fun!" Fcking ridiculous. They could at least add like a hot spot where there is a current battle going on, or an alert that someone is fighting. Guildies indicator on the map. Sh*t like that. But nothing.


The alert is the guildy stating it in chat or better yet a VOIP prgram your guild uses.
Chiefster Profile Options #7

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Definitly some good ideas in this thread.
Ajido Profile Options #8

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If you guys aren't on board with offering rewards for GvG, which I can understand, then the second most important thing to most MMO players besides loot is bragging rights. We need stats and plenty of them. Let us see who the more successful PvP members in a guild are, maybe offer titles to players that don't really affect anything but let us show off. If we're not going to get loot from PvP'ing, we need something to show off that we have giant e-peens. As shallow as that sounds, that is why a lot of us play these things...to compete with others and show off our successes.

We just need a reason to care about GvG, please give it too us!
SteventheBoss Profile Options #9

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Yeah know ! Where's our fcking PATCH!!!!!?!?!?!?
Velasca Profile Options #10

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Even GvG is a disappointment?