I really, really wan't to shoot while moving

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coax on 04/23/2012, 10:14 PM - view

CW2 does in no way use the same system as TERA.
Hence the word "similar"

its an interesting take on tab-targeting but its still the same. you get more control of your character but its still tab-targeting.

watch almost any video of somebody shooting people with a gun or something. if the target is moving the bullet animation will curve to hit you, as the "hit" as already been calculated, the animation is just for you to enjoy.

it has elements like jumping in and out of aoe spells that feel like TERAs system, but then again so does WOW.

As Nothv13 said, it's more of a hybrid.

coax on 04/23/2012, 10:14 PM - view

many games have animation locking. for both "fun" games and competitive games. nobody complains about street-fighter being animation locked, or vindictus.


You are comparing them to MMOs.

coax on 04/23/2012, 10:14 PM - view

the PACING of TERA is slower. but picks up as you get higher. the animations are there just as much for timing as it is for anything else. every wonder why warriors are fast and speedy and have light hits but zerkers are slow and long animations but have strong hits?

its almost like there is some kinda system involved or something o.O

your asking for a fundamental change in the games behavior. it wouldnt even be the same game anymore. its not light flipping a switch. the game has been balanced form start to finish with this pacing in mind.

your trying to argue your opinion as if it it had any more weight than anybody else.

you just happen to not like the pacing.

the door is right where you left it, please feel free to play another game.

you will have fun there and we will have fun here.

everybody is happy.


I never once said they should drop everything and remove it. When trying to argue a view, it's generally not a good idea to put words in others mouths.

I am not arguing my opinion as if its any more or less valid than others.

I do not like animation locking, but I am used to it after Aion/C9, given the choice I would prefer it gone, but while its here I'll manage. I am merely arguing my dislike of it while this thread is here.

You seem to know a lot about me, or at least think you do.

Edited by: Kingzy about 1 year ago
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Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:35 PM - view


I never once said they should drop everything and remove it. When trying to argue a view, it's generally not a good idea to put words in others mouths.

I am not arguing my opinion as if its any more or less valid than others.

I do not like animation locking, but I am used to it after Aion/C9, given the choice I would prefer it gone, but while its here I'll manage. I am merely arguing my dislike of it while this thread is here.

You seem to know a lot about me, or at least think you do.



sorry. i thought this was a public forum where many people could carry a conversation.

the structure of this place hints at the idea that you are discussing a general topic started by a person called the "original poster", in such a way that makes all post somehow related to that topic.

i was under the impression that it was understood that my post would be somehow related to the general topic discussed so that i may make more than one point and direct my post at people in general.

but apparently im wrong, im just talking to you, and only you.

because you are so important.

so very very important.
Edited by: coax about 1 year ago
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Qilong on 04/23/2012, 10:29 PM - view

BUT ... I see you ignored me telling you your idea was not useful because the system was already in effect. Accuracy depends on skill. You shouldn't be able to just stand next to a mob and expect your axe to hit the target ... like it does in GW2. Positioning, orientation, and timing are relevant far more in this game than in any other MMO currently in the offering. This is not to say that TERA doesn't have its detriments, but the combat system is not one of them.


You didn't see that because I did not make the accuracy suggestion, nor did I support or even mention it, I didn't ignore it, It did not apply to me. Are you even reading the names of the posters?

Qilong on 04/23/2012, 10:29 PM - view

Real combat does have pauses, especially when it is two players sparring. This doesn't matter if it's two knife fighters, MMA, boxing, karate, judo, sumo, etc. Each of these require skills in the form of -- get this -- positioning, orientation, and timing.


I was talking about in-game combat, pauses in gaming combat generally stop the fluid of it.
In real life its obviously completely different. Certainly don't play RPGs for their realism.
Edited by: Kingzy about 1 year ago
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coax on 04/23/2012, 10:42 PM - view
Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:35 PM


I never once said they should drop everything and remove it. When trying to argue a view, it's generally not a good idea to put words in others mouths.

I am not arguing my opinion as if its any more or less valid than others.

I do not like animation locking, but I am used to it after Aion/C9, given the choice I would prefer it gone, but while its here I'll manage. I am merely arguing my dislike of it while this thread is here.

You seem to know a lot about me, or at least think you do.



sorry. i thought this was a public forum where many people could carry a conversation.

the structure of this place hints at the idea that you are discussing a general topic started by a person called the "original poster", in such a way that makes all post somehow related to that topic.

i was under the impression that it was understood that my post would be somehow related to the general topic discussed so that i may make more than one point and direct my post at people in general.

but apparently im wrong, im just talking to you, and only you.

because you are so important.

so very very important.


Yes, if you quote me, that implies you are talking to me. Welcome to the forums, that's how they work, that's why there's a quote feature.
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I had a lot to say but most of it would go over people's heads or not care. I will say this, this just seems like a case of refusing to adapt and learn what the game has to offer.
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Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:45 PM - view
coax on 04/23/2012, 10:42 PM
Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:35 PM


I never once said they should drop everything and remove it. When trying to argue a view, it's generally not a good idea to put words in others mouths.

I am not arguing my opinion as if its any more or less valid than others.

I do not like animation locking, but I am used to it after Aion/C9, given the choice I would prefer it gone, but while its here I'll manage. I am merely arguing my dislike of it while this thread is here.

You seem to know a lot about me, or at least think you do.



sorry. i thought this was a public forum where many people could carry a conversation.

the structure of this place hints at the idea that you are discussing a general topic started by a person called the "original poster", in such a way that makes all post somehow related to that topic.

i was under the impression that it was understood that my post would be somehow related to the general topic discussed so that i may make more than one point and direct my post at people in general.

but apparently im wrong, im just talking to you, and only you.

because you are so important.

so very very important.


Yes, if you quote me, that implies you are talking to me. Welcome to the forums, that's how they work, that's why there's a quote feature.


very well, next time ill make bullet points and mark each one for public or personal debate, ill PM you my phone number so we can have this one-on-one you are so eager to engage in. since thats what the quote feature is for. just you and me baby.

ill also type in lots of smilies and cute text to express my adoration so i don't hurt your cute little feelings with my naughty words that hurt you ever so.

hugs and kisses

xoxoxoxoxox

honestly pull that pineapple out your [filtered] and stop thinking the world revolves around you. you could have easily addressed the content of my post and at least tried to brake the points down but instead you take offense at my language just cause you think im attacking you directly even tho im clearly talking about the topic in general as i reference THOSE points rather than most of yours?

ill hold your hand next time darling, wouldn't want you to get the frights and faint on me.
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coax on 04/23/2012, 10:59 PM - view
Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:45 PM
coax on 04/23/2012, 10:42 PM
Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:35 PM


I never once said they should drop everything and remove it. When trying to argue a view, it's generally not a good idea to put words in others mouths.

I am not arguing my opinion as if its any more or less valid than others.

I do not like animation locking, but I am used to it after Aion/C9, given the choice I would prefer it gone, but while its here I'll manage. I am merely arguing my dislike of it while this thread is here.

You seem to know a lot about me, or at least think you do.



sorry. i thought this was a public forum where many people could carry a conversation.

the structure of this place hints at the idea that you are discussing a general topic started by a person called the "original poster", in such a way that makes all post somehow related to that topic.

i was under the impression that it was understood that my post would be somehow related to the general topic discussed so that i may make more than one point and direct my post at people in general.

but apparently im wrong, im just talking to you, and only you.

because you are so important.

so very very important.


Yes, if you quote me, that implies you are talking to me. Welcome to the forums, that's how they work, that's why there's a quote feature.

very well, next time ill make bullet points and mark each one for public or personal debate, ill PM you my phone number so we can have this one-on-one you are so eager to engage in. since thats what the quote feature is for. just you and me baby.

ill also type in lots of smilies and cute text to express my adoration so i don't hurt your cute little feelings with my naughty words that hurt you ever so.

hugs and kisses

xoxoxoxoxox

honestly pull that pineapple out your [filtered] and stop thinking the world revolves around you. you could have easily addressed the content of my post and at least tried to brake the points down but instead you take offense at my language just cause you think im attacking you directly even tho im clearly talking about the topic in general as i reference THOSE points rather than most of yours?

ill hold your hand next time darling, wouldn't want you to get the frights and faint on me.


Just wow, no words to describe the stupidity.
You assume I was talking to you in my posts? Probably because I quoted you. Funny how that works eh?
Edited by: Kingzy about 1 year ago
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Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 11:04 PM - view

Just wow, no words to describe the stupidity.
You assume I was talking to you in my posts? Probably because I quoted you. Funny how that works eh?


i quoted you in reference to CW2.

i then went on to talk about the topic at hand.

im sorry your reading comprehension is lacking and it got your panties in a bunch.

my offer still stands.

*holds out hand*

ill be gentle.
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coax on 04/23/2012, 11:15 PM - view
Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 11:04 PM

Just wow, no words to describe the stupidity.
You assume I was talking to you in my posts? Probably because I quoted you. Funny how that works eh?


i quoted you in reference to CW2.

i then went on to talk about the topic at hand.

im sorry your reading comprehension is lacking and it got your panties in a bunch.

my offer still stands.

*holds out hand*

ill be gentle.


No, you quoted me. Then you went on to say:

coax on 04/23/2012, 10:14 PM

your asking for a fundamental change in the games behavior. it wouldnt even be the same game anymore. its not light flipping a switch. the game has been balanced form start to finish with this pacing in mind.

your trying to argue your opinion as if it it had any more weight than anybody else.

you just happen to not like the pacing.

the door is right where you left it, please feel free to play another game.

you will have fun there and we will have fun here.

everybody is happy.


See these two words?
"You" and "Your".

I'm sorry your communication skills are lacking.
Not even going to bother anymore, you're hopeless.
Edited by: Kingzy about 1 year ago
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Kingzy on 04/23/2012, 10:44 PM - view
Qilong on 04/23/2012, 10:29 PM

BUT ... I see you ignored me telling you your idea was not useful because the system was already in effect. Accuracy depends on skill. You shouldn't be able to just stand next to a mob and expect your axe to hit the target ... like it does in GW2. Positioning, orientation, and timing are relevant far more in this game than in any other MMO currently in the offering. This is not to say that TERA doesn't have its detriments, but the combat system is not one of them.


You didn't see that because I did not make the accuracy suggestion, nor did I support or even mention it, I didn't ignore it, It did not apply to me. Are you even reading the names of the posters?


You are correct that I made a mistake in confusing you with the OP, my apologies.

Qilong on 04/23/2012, 10:29 PM

Real combat does have pauses, especially when it is two players sparring. This doesn't matter if it's two knife fighters, MMA, boxing, karate, judo, sumo, etc. Each of these require skills in the form of -- get this -- positioning, orientation, and timing.


I was talking about in-game combat, pauses in gaming combat generally stop the fluid of it.
In real life its obviously completely different. Certainly don't play RPGs for their realism.


This is Malbus's Toy, the final boss of Balder's Temple*, inarguably the hardest boss in the game at the moment (it is pro Warrior player Nalfen's video). It wipes groups. Good groups will die constantly to it, PUGs hammer themselves against the rock that is this boss. It's essentially a raid boss. There's an encounter right before it that is used to test if you are even CAPABLE of dealing the damage required to take him from 35% of his health to zero in 3 minutes. This is where most groups, regardless of whatever else they do in that encounter, can't manage. That's the backstory.

This encounter never stops. The boss doesn't like people standing still, and he constantly moves around regardless of how good your tank is. The DPS have to keep to his sides or his back, there is a designated player (usually the healer) who has to run to each mirror and in between use a cannon to blow an invincibility shield, while also trying to keep everyone alive. The tank has to keep holding his attention, else he'll just turn and Lightning Cannon someone to death. This boss lays aoe damage out like it was nothing.

At 35%, the light starts dimming, and will eventually get dim enough that you have trouble seeing where the boss is, where the other players are, and so forth. The Toy is nearly untankable at this point; everything is largely by instinct. You don't stop moving.

Fluid? You don't know the meaning of the word! [sorry, TERA joke. I need to make an emote where I respond in game with "Here's a dictionary."]

* Malbus's Toy is also called Guardian of the Artifact, or Artifact Guardian, which is the direct translation from Korean.