Quote: Malystryx on 05/24/2012, 05:07 AM

I generally go out of my way to help tanks in Tera. I understand that they take longer to kill mobs, so I am willing to help. In return I usually get 1 or 2 runs of a dungeons. So we help each other. Currently I am just shy of 48. So if there are any tanks out on BC around my level that want to blow through certain zones, send me an in-game tell. I just started the Fraya's story questline, and I have yet to clear the first set of quests in that zone.

That's very courteous of you. I went out of my way to help DPSers and healers with their group quests and their instance runs. And if you and I were representative of the community at large, everything would be gravy. But unfortunately it's infested with people who don't care about other people's experience, call foul on every little thing and have no patience.

That's the way of things these days it seems.

Quote: NickValenz on 05/24/2012, 05:29 AM

No sympathy? God , i've never seen a worse community.. tot that the fact the game was expensive it would not attract so many kids ;/

It is not a matter of sympathy, it is a matter of courtesy. Just because majority of the people did not power-level to 60, does not mean that we should be screwed over by someone who has been 60 since day 2 of launch. I am not saying everyone does this, but it seems like currently a portion of the people that are 60 and run dungeons all the time, can be total asses. This is to be expected to a point. But I do not understand why it is so common now. And I hope it gets better soon.

Quote: phoenixfire82 on 05/24/2012, 05:07 AM

Quote: weeb3ast1e on 05/24/2012, 05:03 AM

The game isn't dead, and the tanks that don't get past 30 are kind of missing the point of tanking, seeing as that's around the time when the game serves up a megaload of group quests and a regular run of instances at every major zone. My lancer got to 60 doing just that. Might I suggest you try it, seeing as you're the one class that never has a problem getting a run? Or is that too much for you to ask of yourself?

Lancers are tanks, they have just enough DPS to get by during the times when groups aren't viable. You do have an option, albeit a tricky one with the warrior - they can tank rather well under certain circumstances and with a party willing to allow for the evasion style. But it takes a lot of skill and positional awareness. It demands of you in ways the DPS side of the warrior simply doesn't.

But that's the problem we keep bumping into on these forums - people just aren't willing to work with what the game gives them and would rather assert opinions as fact, even when those opinions are based on limited experience.

Don't argue with me that lancers are fail to level. I have 2 level 60s: a sorc and an archer. I had no problems leveling these classes. I was leveling my lancer almost exclusively in instances until, if you recall, there's a GAP from 32-38. Sure you can queue for CR at 35 but you will be a liability to the group as any class, most especially a tank.

They need to add another dungeon in that level range, or fix lancer questing. How many 60s do you have? You speak of experience. I assume you have a 60 of each class, or can at least 1-up my dual 60s? No? I have more experience than you in every aspect.

Good grief what are you, 10 years old? If you can't take being corrected don't participate on a public forum.

Whether I have other classes that are 60 is irrelevant particularly since we're talking about leveling. I have just the right experience for the topic at hand - a 60 lancer! I knew what I was getting into when I rolled a pure tanking class. You on the other hand, clearly didn't.

If you have a DPS mindset and the lancer is not clicking for you but you still want to tank, then roll a warrior and use your resources to get groups willing to give you the chance.

This is not rocket science, the class is not broken, the game is not deceased, and you are not an expert.

I'm not going to overdramatize but I see where the OP is coming from. My Lancer is now at 34. Since 33 there's no instance I can queue into. So I'm left to just questing, and I can guarantee you I am much more efficient at soloing with every other class but lancer. Sure my health rarely budges but the damage output is pitiful.


Moreover, there are other alts I'm leveling. I'd like to do instances with them. But I'm getting sick of then when I do then for leveling on the Lancer, and I can easily level on other classes.

So next I see several levels of cultists refuge over and over and I'm already feeling pretty nauseated and have not even stepped in.

Regardless: this issue and thread is moot; a revamp for warriors and lancers have been announced. One of the Lancer issues was to "improve soloability." They are aware of the issue and are working on a fix. Just don't know what the fix will be.

Quote: weeb3ast1e on 05/24/2012, 05:03 AM

The game isn't dead, and the tanks that don't get past 30 are kind of missing the point of tanking, seeing as that's around the time when the game serves up a megaload of group quests and a regular run of instances at every major zone. My lancer got to 60 doing just that. Might I suggest you try it, seeing as you're the one class that never has a problem getting a run? Or is that too much for you to ask of yourself?

Lancers are tanks, they have just enough DPS to get by during the times when groups aren't viable. You do have an option, albeit a tricky one with the warrior - they can tank rather well under certain circumstances and with a party willing to allow for the evasion style. But it takes a lot of skill and positional awareness. It demands of you in ways the DPS side of the warrior simply doesn't.

But that's the problem we keep bumping into on these forums - people just aren't willing to work with what the game gives them and would rather assert opinions as fact, even when those opinions are based on limited experience.

Don't argue with me that lancers are fail to level. I have 2 level 60s: a sorc and an archer. I had no problems leveling these classes. I was leveling my lancer almost exclusively in instances until, if you recall, there's a GAP from 32-38. Sure you can queue for CR at 35 but you will be a liability to the group as any class, most especially a tank.

They need to add another dungeon in that level range, or fix lancer questing. How many 60s do you have? You speak of experience. I assume you have a 60 of each class, or can at least 1-up my dual 60s? No? I have more experience than you in every aspect.

May I suggest you drink your morning coffee? You seem unnecessarily confrontational here.

Entire discussion is moot. Lancers are getting a soloability revamp.

May I suggest you drink your morning coffee? You seem unnecessarily confrontational here.

Entire discussion is moot. Lancers are getting a soloability revamp.