I wanna punch 90% of the Lancers I've grouped with in the last 24 hours.

Smoke199 Profile Options #71

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Im not big on Class Warfare so let me give you some facts.

Soloing as a lancer is terrible. Its slow. Things take forever to die. You can easily help out lancers by inviting them to group with you while you are leveling. Then when you need a tank, low and behold you have some people to ask. Funny enough, Beserkers are really great at leveling.

Being a lancer pre-26 is not really a full fledged tank so to speak. You only have one real aggro skill (a shout) and you most lancers wont have all of their gear set up for instance tanking yet. So if your basing your judgments on a Bastion of Lok run then your right they are mostly going to sit there turtle and shout once in a while. Its the best way to generate threat.

A good group can make an average lancer good. And vice versa. The very first run I did in Bastion of Lok two people disconnected so we did it with only three people. The priest healer new which skills would generate lots of aggro and the warrior knew how to manage his health. We cleared the whole instance - no deaths. We even accidentally pulled the whole back room before the final boss (if you dont clear it they come). It was so much fun because everyone was forced to play their class to their best and work as a team. If you come in with the attitude that the instance should just be a zerg fest and blow all your big heals and big attacks your making it hard for everyone else.

Constructive criticism should be welcomed by people but you have to do it right. Most lancers dont have strats on all the instances yet. If you've done it before - step up and say so - especially if you see they are undergeared (i.e. the lowest level you can be or no blues).
Reiia Profile Options #72

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As a lancer, what doesn't work is saying... lets do this together! While i'm fighting a bam then you send a party invite. Sometimes we dont have time to pop up the notifcation and accept, and haf the time that doesnt work during battle. Wait until we are done fighting the BAM, most of the time you run away before i finish so i can reply. So yeah.

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Pepperzine Profile Options #73

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More tanking classes would fix this, because the lancer wouldn't be the only tank
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Reiia on 05/15/2012, 11:02 AM - view
As a lancer, what doesn't work is saying... lets do this together! While i'm fighting a bam then you send a party invite. Sometimes we dont have time to pop up the notifcation and accept, and haf the time that doesnt work during battle. Wait until we are done fighting the BAM, most of the time you run away before i finish so i can reply. So yeah.

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Idk why but people loves whispering me in middle of a boss right, i run around 3-4 dungeons a day and every single whisper i get is right in the middle of the final boss or something -.- Idk why everyone just have that kind of timing XD
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Smoke199 on 05/15/2012, 10:48 AM - view

Soloing as a lancer is terrible. Its slow. Things take forever to die.


I don't know why so many people say this. If you know how to round-up mobs properly, you can easily take them down in bunches. We may not be as fast killing single mobs as other classes but we can take down large groups as good as anyone. So far I'm 34 and have been able to tear through everything I've come across with ease. Perhaps this will change in the later levels but so far, leveling solo as a lancer is cake.

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Mousse on 05/14/2012, 11:14 PM - view
. DPS have to wait for so long in queue, that many of them are frustrated by the time the Lancer shows up and tend to get pretty rude and flip out at every little thing. Everything, from the Lancer going into that instance for the first time, to losing aggro on an enemy even if it wasn't the Lancer's fault (stupid DPS runs off to attack a mob outside Lancer's taunt range = OMG BAD TANK L2P) can cause an overblown reaction.

Then there's the elitist Warriors (not every Warrior is like this, but I'm sure everyone has noticed that there's a lot of them) constantly looking down on Lancers because "block is OP and easy and takes no skill and they take our jerbs!". Worst of all, these are usually the same idiots I've seen having to be babysat by the healer because they take a ton of damage from not even being able to dodge wide swings from an enemy that is being tanked by the same Lancer they're berating. And then they die and it's the Lancer's fault. It's not just the Lancers. It's everyone. There's the Lancers who just rolled a Lancer to get short queue, there's the Slayers who rolled Slayer because they're good at soloing and PvP, there's the Warriors who rolled Warrior because the completely baseless stars in the character creation screen taunted their manliness, etc. There's idiots playing every class and every race in the game. And the shortage of tanks makes the whole community self-destructive and stupid.


Well said, I agree lol.


blazew on 05/15/2012, 12:00 AM


You know xD I was about to post something about that. BAMs/Bosses tend to have temporary targets throughout battle that can only be stopped via stunning it by some means, but for some reason a lot of DPS classes I have qued with lately have somehow forgotten that they need to dodge attacks, even the very obvious AoE BAM attacks. And oddly enough, they don't blame themselves for walking into that devastating attack foolishly, the first person they do want to blame for their death is the Tank or the Healer. Like really? A lot of the deaths I've seen is because the DPS believes they no longer need to dodge attacks because there is a Lancer in the group.


Most DPS I have come across in general don't know how to dodge/block attacks. Regardless of what type of tank we have or where we found the people for the group, many, and maybe it's because I'm a Priest, think they can just stand there and take hits and then get mad when they die under the bosses [filtered] and I can't get close enough to rez them fast enough.

And people wonder why there are so few tanks and healer's in MMO's. If all you DPS would quit complaining all the time at the people who are supporting you and keeping you alive and maybe realize some things that happen are actually your fault and you could improve, you might have more fun. I've seen my share of tanks with attitudes but I've also seen plenty of dps with attitudes. I've seen dps yell at the tank for rolling on stuff he doesn't need when they have done it themselves. If you're a less than stellar dps and you're yelling at the tank and giving him attitude, do you really expect him to just sit there and take it from you? Why would anyone do that?
Edited by: Leiloni about 1 year ago
ibTrav Profile Options #77

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My berz guildie que'd for 4 hours straight with about 5 lancers dropping him from group or just leaving because they didn't want to fight for loot. There are more baddies then goodies in my opinion but then again I don't need to que any more since I can just warrior tank it now.
Cenie Profile Options #78

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and I want to punch the DPS who decide they can pull whenever they please.
I also want to punch people who blame me for them dying / taking damage, when they don't understand how to move out of the way.

The list can go on and on with the amount of utter stupidity us Lancers have to put up with.
Pepperzine Profile Options #79

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The list can go on and on with the amount of utter stupidity us Lancers have to put up with

Oh what a hard life people who choose to tank have.
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Pepperzine on 05/15/2012, 11:42 AM - view
The list can go on and on with the amount of utter stupidity us Lancers have to put up with

Oh what a hard life people who choose to tank have.


I'm sorry I prefer to play a class that requires some active thinking.