IGN Tera Review - "Action Packed"

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knoxxer on 05/26/2012, 09:32 PM - view
the full quote is "The most valuable reviews we get are the unpublished ones that each of you guys give to your friends. These are the ones that matter the most because as much as every media outlet wants to be the 'trusted source', none of them come close to the personal opinion of a friend."

Emphasis on 'you guys' or the people playing the game. guess I was unclear.


And it's still vague.

All reviews suck, yet the most trusted ones should be the ones of a friend.

See there's a HUGE difference between:

A FRIEND's opinion on the game, and what YOU (The player) thinks of it.
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Arkwright on 05/26/2012, 09:34 PM - view
knoxxer on 05/26/2012, 09:32 PM
the full quote is "The most valuable reviews we get are the unpublished ones that each of you guys give to your friends. These are the ones that matter the most because as much as every media outlet wants to be the 'trusted source', none of them come close to the personal opinion of a friend."

Emphasis on 'you guys' or the people playing the game. guess I was unclear.


And it's still vague.

All reviews suck, yet the most trusted ones should be the ones of a friend.

See there's a HUGE difference between:

A FRIEND's opinion on the game, and what YOU (The player) thinks of it.


There is a reason we have a writing team at En Masse... :)

Well written Ark.
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knoxxer on 05/26/2012, 09:19 PM - view
All ratings suck because in the end it is one dude's opinion. It isn't as if all of IGN got together and reviewed TERA collectively and scientifically. TERA wasn't this guys thing and that is ok. Metacritic is better because it helps to average things out but it is still only (as of right now) 21 dude's opinions.

The most valuable reviews we get are the unpublished ones that each of you guys give to your friends. These are the ones that matter the most because as much as every media outlet wants to be the 'trusted source', none of them come close to the personal opinion of a friend.


I don't usually comment on moderator actions, but with all the obstacles confronting TERA right now, I REALLY don't think it would be prudent to finally taking a break from silence to be commenting on reviews from third-party sites.

Especially after stating that Revolutionary Tera Reaps Rave Reviews

http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/news-announcements/topics/Revolutionary-TERA-Reaps-Rave-Reviews

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I would be much more excited by the blue comments in this thread if they were actually addressing some of the concerns and failings brought up in the article, many of which are mirrored on the forum by the players.

Oh well.

If they're ever interested in taking a stab at it, the summary was this:

"Tera's an action-MMO that nails the “action” part and then manages a face-palm-inducing face-plant on all the other bits. Combat moves quickly and feels great, but dirt-dull quests, a generic, disjointed story, repetition, repetition, and repetition ensure that any fun you might stumble across is short-lived. Even grouping to take on colossal, world-roaming boss monsters – initially a thrill few other MMOs can match – eventually grows old due to a lack of variety. Between impressive graphics and flashy battles, Tera has mountains of style. Substance, however, is still sadly lacking."
Edited by: EdgeTO about 1 year ago
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Vorch on 05/26/2012, 09:36 PM - view
knoxxer on 05/26/2012, 09:19 PM
All ratings suck because in the end it is one dude's opinion. It isn't as if all of IGN got together and reviewed TERA collectively and scientifically. TERA wasn't this guys thing and that is ok. Metacritic is better because it helps to average things out but it is still only (as of right now) 21 dude's opinions.

The most valuable reviews we get are the unpublished ones that each of you guys give to your friends. These are the ones that matter the most because as much as every media outlet wants to be the 'trusted source', none of them come close to the personal opinion of a friend.


I don't usually comment on moderator actions, but with all the obstacles confronting TERA right now, I REALLY don't think it would be prudent to finally taking a break from silence to be commenting on reviews from third-party sites.

Especially after stating that Revolutionary Tera Reaps Rave Reviews

http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/news-announcements/topics/Revolutionary-TERA-Reaps-Rave-Reviews



Why's that? Does IGN's negative review somehow invalidate the positive impressions EME mentioned earlier? I don't get it. People whine and cry that EME is too silent and doesn't have enough of a presense on the forums, and then when an EME rep makes a candid comment you complain that they shouldn't be talking about x, they should be talking about y. There really is no pleasing this community...
Edited by: Keiichi81 about 1 year ago
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Nope, it doesn't invalidate other people's opinions.

It, however, does show that it's not quite as ubiquitously rave and revolutionary as EME wants us to believe. Hell, MMORPG, which is in their article, gave the game a 7.7, which IS good, just not amazing.

So no, I'm not complaining...I'm just making a note on what EME decides to respond to (articles about 3rd party reviews) and what they choose NOT to address (SO many other issues on the forums).

Knoxxer says that we matter, and I really would like to believe that...but actions speak louder than words.

Not QQing. This is what I expect from most gaming companies. Just making observations. This game has so much potential and I comment because I give a crap about the direction it seems this game is going.
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EdgeTO on 05/26/2012, 09:43 PM - view
I would be much more excited by the blue comments in this thread if they were actually addressing some of the concerns and failings brought up in the article, many of which are mirrored on the forum by the players.

Oh well.

If they're ever interested in taking a stab at it, the summary was this:

"Tera's an action-MMO that nails the “action” part and then manages a face-palm-inducing face-plant on all the other bits. Combat moves quickly and feels great, but dirt-dull quests, a generic, disjointed story, repetition, repetition, and repetition ensure that any fun you might stumble across is short-lived. Even grouping to take on colossal, world-roaming boss monsters – initially a thrill few other MMOs can match – eventually grows old due to a lack of variety. Between impressive graphics and flashy battles, Tera has mountains of style. Substance, however, is still sadly lacking."


What would you have them do? Rewrite the entire script because an IGN reviewer called TERA's story generic? I'm genuinely curious what kind of answer you expect EME to give on these "concerns". They've already posted - numerous times - about all the content that's scheduled to be added by the end of summer which should go a long way towards revitalizing endgame and providing interesting diversions from grinding dungeons. Beyond that, there really doesn't seem to be much more to say.

Just because they don't release a press statement every time someone makes a complaint thread doesn't mean they don't have a plan for TERA's future.
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Keicchi...I don't think IGN is the only place with a problem with the questing and storyline.

And I agree that they don't need to release a press release for every issue. However, they don't seem to be responding to very many issues at all.

A bit more transparency would be nice and keep people subbing.
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Keiichi81 on 05/26/2012, 09:53 PM - view
EdgeTO on 05/26/2012, 09:43 PM
I would be much more excited by the blue comments in this thread if they were actually addressing some of the concerns and failings brought up in the article, many of which are mirrored on the forum by the players.

Oh well.

If they're ever interested in taking a stab at it, the summary was this:

"Tera's an action-MMO that nails the “action” part and then manages a face-palm-inducing face-plant on all the other bits. Combat moves quickly and feels great, but dirt-dull quests, a generic, disjointed story, repetition, repetition, and repetition ensure that any fun you might stumble across is short-lived. Even grouping to take on colossal, world-roaming boss monsters – initially a thrill few other MMOs can match – eventually grows old due to a lack of variety. Between impressive graphics and flashy battles, Tera has mountains of style. Substance, however, is still sadly lacking."


What would you have them do? Rewrite the entire script because an IGN reviewer called TERA's story generic? I'm genuinely curious what kind of answer you expect EME to give on these "concerns". They've already posted - numerous times - about all the content that's scheduled to be added by the end of summer which should go a long way towards revitalizing endgame and providing interesting diversions from grinding dungeons. Beyond that, there really doesn't seem to be much more to say.

Just because they don't release a press statement every time someone makes a complaint thread doesn't mean they don't have a plan for TERA's future.


Those complaints from IGN have been mirrored by many users on the forum since beta, and seem to grow by the day.

Tera has been out a year now in Korea, and most of the updates we're getting are from that. I wouldn't expect more large changes anytime soon. But, you're right, the problems Tera has go deep, and would take a monumental amount of time and effort to fix, to the point where we can probably safely say they won't get fixed. The quests will probably always be "dirt-dull". The story will probably always be "generic, disjointed", the leveling experience will probably always feel like "repetition, repetition, and repetition", and there will probably always be a "lack of variety". They will just continue to build the game on top of a broken foundation.

Is that what you would rather hear me say?

As for the dev responses, to borrow another quote from that review which fits here, they often have "mountains of style. Substance, however, is still sadly lacking.". Seems to be a reoccurring problem.
Edited by: EdgeTO about 1 year ago
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You know what's funny.
About every MMORPG I've played had a bad to mediocre story.
Most quests in SWTOR where mediocre at best.

In my eyes it's alright, I honestly don't play a MMO for it's story.
I would read a book or watch a movie for that, or perhaps play one of those rare story driven titles that doesn't cater to the typical hollywood masses.


It's about consistency.
Let's take SWTOR as example IGN stated how fun questing was with a story, well a valued opinion.
That said every one seemed to agree that SWTOR's game play was generic.

Simply put the game had generic gameplay and a story, yet all quests where exactly the same as in Tera.
' Kill 100 droids'
' Kill space pirate'
'Click on 10 buttons'
' Pick up jellyfish'

Tera does the same yet it has solid game play.
Which makes playing the game fun according to IGN.
Since SWTOR got a high rate they basically don't care how repetitive and stupid questing is, they like the story.


See the difference?
One game is apparently fun because you listen to the story, basically you are not playing at that point.
The lesser part of SWTOR starts when you will be doing the same quests as in Tera, in fact SWTOR has less variation of mobs.
And perhaps when you realize most actions don't matter.

The other game is fun because of how it plays while you rather not listen to something any one has to say.

I've also found myself doing that with SWTOR after a while.




It's like saying ' Super Mario has a bad story 3 points' yes no **** it's Mario.
You want to tell me that a MMORPG with women running around in skimpy out fits, gore and big [filtered] monsters is about the story?


IGN is in general putting not much value into game play.
Why? I don't know since for me game play is king and that's why Tera is for me fun , a game like SWTOR feels like WOW in space with a mediocre story.



Edited by: HauntingBard about 1 year ago