Quote: Skan on 04/24/2012, 03:34 PM

Don't understand what that has to do with this crica.

The gear is BoE - Use the Broker to sell what you win that you wont use and buy what you dont win that you will use.

I dont understand what all the crying over loot in LFD groups is about?

Quote: Crica on 04/24/2012, 03:38 PM

Quote: Skan on 04/24/2012, 03:34 PM

Don't understand what that has to do with this crica.

The gear is BoE - Use the Broker to sell what you win that you wont use and buy what you dont win that you will use.

I dont understand what all the crying over loot in LFD groups is about?

Did you read the first post? The example used is the lootmaster ninja-changing the loot rules to "free for all" right before the last boss dies, and then quickly grabbing everything.

So yeah, not sure what your post is referring to.

@ Creylith -

It is my contention, that if EnMasse makes a change to the LFD group loot options - something similar to what you propose, that it will just be easier and less of a hassle for them if they just change all group loot options to your suggestion.

People have warned time and time again - that you get the bottom of the barrel when you use a cross server LFD. It is filled with scumbags and thieves.

I fear that a Sandbox portion of my gameplay is going to be governed away by software, because of problems stemming from the armpit of the MMO community. Puggers.

Quote: Aerovar on 04/24/2012, 09:41 AM

but honestly its a bow dude you're a slayer..wtf are you gonna do with that?

Sell it, give it to a guildie, a friend, destroy it via drop, send it to an alt, show it off in Area chat. I dunno.

So why enable the armpit players more than you have to? They (EME) would get far too much outcry if they completely removed the ability to change loot settings. But they already modify some things for x-server players (i.e. can't trade), so I can't see another little tweak being that difficult.



A simple round-robin/class-specific/rol- on-rare+ for just the instance finder isn't going to hurt anything, or failing that, a vote requirement for loot changes. Aside from your provided example of guild warfare, which is dependant on 1) both you and the opposing player actually using the instance finder (which guildies don't, you suggested), 2) winding up on the same random party as an opposiing guild on a x-server system, AND 3) them being dumb enough to stay in the party long enough for you the ninja them later on.

Quote: Lunaus on 04/24/2012, 09:53 AM

Quote: Aerovar on 04/24/2012, 09:41 AM

but honestly its a bow dude you're a slayer..wtf are you gonna do with that?

Sell it, give it to a guildie, a friend, destroy it via drop, send it to an alt, show it off in Area chat. I dunno.

Exactly my point,...what you just described is what people do with trash. Meanwhile the player that actually needed it must wait longer for upgrades....

This is why you shouldn't be able to loot or roll on gear that you can't equip in LFD, unless of course no one can equip or everyone can then it should be rolled on by all.

Isn't this common sense? I mean c'mon,...why would a Lancer need to roll on robes or a priest roll on heavy armor.

This is Loot 101

What I am saying is that I find it MORE LIKELY that if Enmasse feels pressure to change group loot options for LFD, that they will most likley change it for ALL GROUP LOOTING. I just don't see EnMasse creating a change to the group loot system specifically for LFD and LFD only.

If they make a change to the way loot is distributed while in a group, it will be across the board - and that governs community porblems with software. That is bad for Sandbox gaming.

Obviously it should not be possible to switch loot settings mid-fight. Hope it gets fixed.