it's time to ignore the desperate kid clutching at straws. He is hardly talking about anything anymore. His latest argument is now "we don't understand the economic implications of what we are asking" Yeah ok... bed time for you now kiddy. We will enquire about whatever the f'k we want.
Taemek is just trying to get some of his shattered ego back / prove himself. He got dismissed ages ago however. But is why he is not letting things drop.(man i would love to see him say "you may not know who am, but im kinda a big deal)

At some point you have to look away from a car crash...... Be kind and help him let go only thing we can do for the poor guy.

Quote: gezodiac on 03/25/2012, 08:26 PM

I'm sure if a census is done and there are 5k people over there they could set up a singular server.

I don't think they would do it for one server, if they where to offer west coast option it would have to be enough to cater for anyone who wished to be west coast. Otherwise you would be going into a situation that could potentially exclude people who can't fit. Which is more servers then one. I also think that you wouldn't set it all up for just one server. I would see it like renting a room just to put one chair in it.

Then again maybe not, how many servers are blizzard opening up for Aus? Is it more then 1?

Ok Mr.Bigshot, add up the amount of people for West Coast servers here in this thread. Now when we petitioned for West Coast servers on Aion, we had over 14'000 votes in favour for it, what did we get? Nada. We had those votes before the end of Open Beta.

Where are we with Tera? At the end of CB4. How many votes have you achieved? Sweet FA.

Now, when the Americans start creating threads with 40+ thousand votes for West Coast servers, we might see them, now please, educate us some more on how the Oceanic Demographic worked together to get those West Coast servers on WoW, because we all know it had nothing to do with the Oceanic community, it was the hundreds of thousands of West Coast players who wanted low ping that achieved it.

If you seriously think that there is no economic implications in what you ask this close to retail release, you are seriously, very young, as pointed out by the structure of your post here that I quoted.

Well, I do hope Aussies get their own oceanic server. Living out here in hawaii for past 2 years has been difficult as an online gamer. Ping is almost always bad, even with proxy services and my Aussie friend always has worst ping then I do by about 50-100ms. It really does hurt the experience.

But I think the best course of action should be, depending on the success of the game, to make a few servers for special timezone players. I would also say that West Coast US server is not enough for Aussies in Tera (ping would still suck).

My suggestion would be to keep the Chicago server for all US players (as is the current plan), but then make a server or two located in Australia, and a few in Europe (France or Germany).

This would allow EVERYONE to have great ping, and truly enjoy Tera. Mortal Online choose to have only European servers, and as a result (becaus MO is like tera in Action based combat) it KILLED the experience for all US players. Resulting in horrible amount of sub drops.

So don't settle for asking for a US western server for Aussie players (200+ ping is not acceptable for these kind of games!)

I do wish you Aussies the best, but seriously, if you think playing a game that's very heavy in PvP, and quick reactions in PVE, with 300-400+ ping is going to be fun, then you're wrong lol. If Enmasse doesn't agree to locally based Aussie server, then I wouldn't waste the cash on the game if I were you guys (unless you truly don't care about being medocre *Some players really don't care about being competitive, and that's cool* but if you think you're going to be some awesome pvp god at 400 ping in Tera, you should start looking at other games)

Careful now or yer gonna get a wall of copy pasta from wiki and a lesson on Ozzyland blind nationalism. He's a little extra dense but over the years its either been the exact same tool posting or this is how they all are. Feels like some stereotypes are true.

Either way yer just gonna antagonize the ozzyland troll into posting another wall of useless copy pasta, and really the only reason the epic dooshnozzle is even doing that is because he thinks he needs to wait in line for his turn to speak. He's one of those people that can't learn anything new because its too hard to process new ideas when you use 9.9% of the 10% of yer active brain matter just holding on to the next thing you want to say.

They have a clinical term for this kind of person but I can't remember it so lets just call him average ozzy.

Quote: Thaid on 03/26/2012, 12:35 AM

Careful now or yer gonna get a wall of copy pasta from wiki and a lesson on Ozzyland blind nationalism. He's a little extra dense but over the years its either been the exact same tool posting or this is how they all are. Feels like some stereotypes are true.

Either way yer just gonna antagonize the ozzyland troll into posting another wall of useless copy pasta, and really the only reason the epic dooshnozzle is even doing that is because he thinks he needs to wait in line for his turn to speak. He's one of those people that can't learn anything new because its too hard to process new ideas when you use 9.9% of the 10% of yer active brain matter just holding on to the next thing you want to say.

They have a clinical term for this kind of person but I can't remember it so lets just call him average ozzy.

Well said Thaid and this is what irks me the most, the stereo typical view of Australians is we are clueless and have no idea or too lazy to give a hoot.

My guild and several other highly competitive guilds within the Oceanic Demographic take alot of pride in what we achieve knowing we are the underdogs when it comes to latency issues. We actually thrive working harder at being the better players and trying everything we can to overcome our USA counterparts.

Most of us have been around long enough now to know, that nothing is likely to change in our life times, so instead of crying about it, we just moved on and play harder instead.

Some lessons are learned hard I guess for some people.

With that said, I will take a note from Thaids book and leave this thread to rot.

I respect your opinion and it is always good to see American players on our side in the fight for Aussie servers, however, I must say that, alot of people said this on Lineage 2 and still, Australian players were still a threat in PvP. They said this for Age of Conan and still, we were a threat in PvP. They said this for Aion, and still we continued to be a threat.

Now, we are seeing it said here, once again, 10+ years later and nothing has changed. We will still be a threat and highly competitive in PvP, because, we know nothing will be done and so, we try harder to overcome the challenges that lay ahead and play hard or go home. Those who cry a river about like Jemila are just simply, bad players.

Quote: Taemek on 03/26/2012, 12:54 AM

I respect your opinion and it is always good to see American players on our side in the fight for Aussie servers, however, I must say that, alot of people said this on Lineage 2 and still, Australian players were still a threat in PvP. They said this for Age of Conan and still, we were a threat in PvP. They said this for Aion, and still we continued to be a threat.

Now, we are seeing it said here, once again, 10+ years later and nothing has changed. We will still be a threat and highly competitive in PvP, because, we know nothing will be done and so, we try harder to overcome the challenges that lay ahead and play hard or go home. Those who cry a river about like Jemila are just simply, bad players.

I'm sorry, but in Aion, there were no real competitive Aussie threats (no disrespect to you or other aussies, because I know there are many with great potential, many of which really shine as awesome gamers at LAN parties) but aion was very, very ping dependent, especially at end game with attack speed buffs + gear.

Maybe I'm talking from the experience of a governor that excelled at pvp, but the differences I saw in aussie attack times were just terrible. It cut their attack speed in half, if not more in same cases. This is just not competitive compared to top tiered PvPers with under 90 ping.

I never played AoC, or L2, so not sure on their mechanics, but Tera's mechanics do not forgive bad ping, worst then aion does.

Like I said, I hope you guys get your Aussie server, and can experience the game at 50ms, but if you're hoping to hang with the top pvpers, with 400-600 ping, you're going to be very, very sad.

The game is "playable" at best, but it's not going to be competitive.

Of course, most of the server will include bad/mediocre players. So it may still be enjoyable for some aussies if you're good enough. But you won't see any winning a serious tournament, that's for sure.

I dunno, I'm a competitive guy, I loved doing BOTB tournaments in EQ, conquering the lands in Shadowbane, destroying guilds in EQ2 and Vanguard FFA pvp, being a Governor in aion, Destroying warzones in SWTOR, etc etc. But even with 120-140 ping in Tera playing from Hawaii sometimes irritates me (and i'm really glad i'll be on east coast for launch).

I dunno, if I was an aussie, i'd just stick to a game that offers a local server. But maybe I take pvp too serious lol.