I've done 2 dungeons so far.. are they all like this..

SeraElf Profile Options #11

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BoL is an underground rock-wall cave where you have to clear almost everything.
SM is an above-ground house where you can skip a ton of mobs.
The next instance (CR) is like floating platforms high up in the air outside.

I can't speak for the others, but I feel like those first 3 are pretty different.
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Burstlee on 05/07/2012, 09:57 AM - view
Aren't all dungeons pretty much glorified hallways? I mean, it has to be linear to some extent. They can change the way the area looks, make it seem more "open", but you're going to be going down a set path regardless.


and i said i'm ok with hallways just make them look more open and expansive. you can even throw in some invisible walls or something.

but its literally just a hallway so far.

Vahzl Profile Options #13

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I liked the mansion, very goth. I kind of liked Bastion too, but it did get a little tedious. Having seen the pirate area now though, I can see the game design gets far prettier as it goes on. I nearly pooped when I saw those beaches :D
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Burstlee on 05/07/2012, 09:57 AM - view
Aren't all dungeons pretty much glorified hallways? I mean, it has to be linear to some extent. They can change the way the area looks, make it seem more "open", but you're going to be going down a set path regardless.


Pretty much. Wouldn't be much of a dungeon if it was just an open field, would it? =P
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Arev on 05/07/2012, 09:55 AM - view
keysmachine on 05/07/2012, 09:53 AM
VitalSuit on 05/07/2012, 09:50 AM
That's what a dungeon is defined as? Not all instances are bland narrow hallways but when you say dungeon then yeah it's going to be tunnels of enemies with an occasional boss.


i'm ok with hallways if you disguise them and make them look different.

lol between the first and second dungeons that you do. the only difference is there's a ladder in the second one. /facepalm


You know, it's rather amazing that a manor has hallways. Or a cave has, uh, cave-ways.

You've done two dungeons, not every dungeon in the game. Yes, some dungeons are glorified hallways, some are much better than that.


i didn't wanna have to mention another game. but since i'm speaking totally on level design and not content i will.

in WOW karazan is nothing but a tower keep. so you would think all that would have is even more narrow hallways.

and yes you do have narrow hallways but you also climb up stairs outside the keep. run through the areas where the keep animals. you also go through a Theater complete with set pieces that make it look cool. etc.. etc.. hell there's even a boss fight OUTSIDE.

that's what i'm looking for. from what I gather so far people are saying yes it gets better. my question has been answered.
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Vahzl on 05/07/2012, 09:59 AM - view
I liked the mansion, very goth. I kind of liked Bastion too, but it did get a little tedious. Having seen the pirate area now though, I can see the game design gets far prettier as it goes on. I nearly pooped when I saw those beaches :D


i can't wait. honestly i like this game its easy to get into i'm just a little disappointed so far in the dungeon design. but i'm only level 27 lol.
Shinsetsu Profile Options #17

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That's why I prefer to call them instances or raids rather than dungeons. They are not all dungeons in the traditional sense. So far, at level 45, the ones that actually look like dungeons are Bastion of Lok and Necromancer's Tomb. Sinestral Manor and Cultist Refuge don't seem like dungeons at all.
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keysmachine on 05/07/2012, 10:01 AM - view
Arev on 05/07/2012, 09:55 AM
keysmachine on 05/07/2012, 09:53 AM
VitalSuit on 05/07/2012, 09:50 AM
That's what a dungeon is defined as? Not all instances are bland narrow hallways but when you say dungeon then yeah it's going to be tunnels of enemies with an occasional boss.


i'm ok with hallways if you disguise them and make them look different.

lol between the first and second dungeons that you do. the only difference is there's a ladder in the second one. /facepalm


You know, it's rather amazing that a manor has hallways. Or a cave has, uh, cave-ways.

You've done two dungeons, not every dungeon in the game. Yes, some dungeons are glorified hallways, some are much better than that.


i didn't wanna have to mention another game. but since i'm speaking totally on level design and not content i will.

in WOW karazan is nothing but a tower keep. so you would think all that would have is even more narrow hallways.

and yes you do have narrow hallways but you also climb up stairs outside the keep. run through the areas where the keep animals. you also go through a Theater complete with set pieces that make it look cool. etc.. etc.. hell there's even a boss fight OUTSIDE.

that's what i'm looking for. from what I gather so far people are saying yes it gets better. my question has been answered.


Well that is a raid not a 5man dungeon, granted WoW did have some nice instances.
asteriskcgy Profile Options #19

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If you hate hallways then you're gonna puke at Golden Lanturn.
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J2yan on 05/07/2012, 10:05 AM - view
keysmachine on 05/07/2012, 10:01 AM
Arev on 05/07/2012, 09:55 AM
keysmachine on 05/07/2012, 09:53 AM
VitalSuit on 05/07/2012, 09:50 AM
That's what a dungeon is defined as? Not all instances are bland narrow hallways but when you say dungeon then yeah it's going to be tunnels of enemies with an occasional boss.


i'm ok with hallways if you disguise them and make them look different.

lol between the first and second dungeons that you do. the only difference is there's a ladder in the second one. /facepalm


You know, it's rather amazing that a manor has hallways. Or a cave has, uh, cave-ways.

You've done two dungeons, not every dungeon in the game. Yes, some dungeons are glorified hallways, some are much better than that.


i didn't wanna have to mention another game. but since i'm speaking totally on level design and not content i will.

in WOW karazan is nothing but a tower keep. so you would think all that would have is even more narrow hallways.

and yes you do have narrow hallways but you also climb up stairs outside the keep. run through the areas where the keep animals. you also go through a Theater complete with set pieces that make it look cool. etc.. etc.. hell there's even a boss fight OUTSIDE.

that's what i'm looking for. from what I gather so far people are saying yes it gets better. my question has been answered.


Well that is a raid not a 5man dungeon, granted WoW did have some nice instances.


that's true and from what i've gathered they don't have any raids in the game yet. i'm hopeful they do some grandiose level design :)