Theres fun in player-shop, you dig around and might find some valuable for real dirt cheap

You can make this argument about a system like raiding. In fact, "time" and how they prefer to spend (and not spend it) it is exactly the type of argument casual players use to convince developers to make systems easier while still expecting to be equally rewarded.

This is a ridiculous argument when other games have shown that auction houses and player shops can coexist, even complement one another, perfectly well. These doom and gloom scenarios painting a horrific clash between two systems that can't possibly be in the same game world without destroying one another is pure player fiction and scare tactics. Where is your proof? I can point to other games (FFXI, for example) and show real proof of a system with a broker AND player shops working perfectly fine.

You only see it as an insult because your argument looks horrible when it's being presented in an honest light. You are encouraging the developers to dumb down the market system because you can't be bothered to spend the time using all the tools they made available. And you think everyone else should have to drop down to that same simple level and like it. If you want to call something insulting, it should be that.

This thread is really more about changes in general and how they impact someone's perception of Tera, and it should probably stay that way since there are other threads on specific changes out there to comment in. However, it is getting really old seeing people playing that "I want the dimes without putting in the time" card when it comes to market tools (and many other MMO features we've seen fall victim to a gaming generation that wants everything spoon fed).

Yes, Daimao because everyone else restating the same thing in every thread over and over again is absolutely not a waste of time neither are video games or forums associated with such my apologies I shall now go burn my computer.

Except that "walking from player shop to player shop" isn't challenging, ergo there's no need to reward it.

You may as well argue that players should be given a full set of blues for figuring out how to create a character.

And I can just as easily argue that player shops are the REAL "EZMOAD" of MMOs because they ensure you never need to relist your items or compete with prices on the AH.

At least on the AH you need to relist items, compete with prices, do pricing research, etc. Player store? Put your overpriced crap up and leave it until some unknowing idiot buys it. The DEFINITION of wanting it easy.

How ironic that you were calling AH users lazy...

As I said (since you chose to leave this part out of my quote): It's all subjective. Some might (and do) say the same about besting PvE content, PvP competitions, MMOs, gaming in general, etc. No game developer is going to design a product around what you alone feel is important.

What you're saying is from normal money/gold/cash in-game they turned into gold,silver,copper (making it more simple, i dont see how it is more simple than having just money alone) wheres the logic in that?

You know, I still REALLY like the idea of pet shops being usable in important places, like outside of instances or in remote towns.