Berserker:

Already in heavy armor, so the plate dropping with +agro is good to go.
Already have a block mechanic, but its fine as is, so don't improve it.
Put damage reduction on cyclone and a few other moves and we are set there.
Give em more agro, and a shout.
No more gear related kickings for zerkers.

Berserkertank !!!

Note: As a lancer I support my zerker brothers.

Let the hate flow...

With a good zerker you dont even need a lancer in a party ._. maybe its EME/BHS's way of keeping the Love up for the lancer until its more properly balanced.

I play a zerker and I have tanked a few of the quest BAM's with archers and mystics to do the healing and I have died probably 3 - 5 times only. Depends a lot on how efficient the healer is too.

I do not want my Zerker to be a tank. I already started to get people begging me to tank on my Warrior, which I wasn't at all comfortable doing. I'd want even less to do it on my Berserker. I want to DPS, not get pigeonholed into tanking. :/

Quote: Zhuyeto on 05/07/2012, 06:47 AM - view

If they dont keep you topped, buffed, on your feet & debuffed (stupid hp drain n stuff) theyre useless.
I always have people going "Dont heal till im 40% im below!" No, if I see your 1k~ under top your getting healed.

Why? People who rolled berserkers didn't sign up for tanking. They signed up for big crits. Anyway, they're too slow.

Quote: Louise on 05/07/2012, 06:55 AM - view

That's dumb, since if you get knocked down or have a debuff on you it means you didn't dodge some sort of move the BAM/Boss/monster did. That would make THEM useless, not the healer.

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They would just need to make/edit certain glyphs to increase their speed.


I think Zerkers should be able to tank. They wear heavy armor, can block, have nice aoe. What they would need to do is to make glyphs that make certain berserker moves to add threat. That way they wouldn't be able to glyph for optimized dps and tank as well.

I play a zerk and while yes we can "tank", we would need significant survival and aggro improvements, not to mention game mechanic changes. Tanking a BAM is not like tanking dungeon bosses. Last night, on my 54 zerk I got hit for 34k, -one shotted-, by the boss in the 52 dungeon(name eludes me). Even if I had gotten a block in, the block value on my axe is only I think 9 or 12k right now.

Now take into the fact that we have nothing but charge skills and we will hardly ever get any real shots in to build and hold aggro because we'll never complete a full charge when we constantly have to drop to block, and you can't just go for short charge hits all the time either as the animation is a little slow on the axe pickup and might leave you vulnerable to a boss hit before you can block.

Tank BAMS? Yes, in fact I don't think there's an easier class in the game to solo BAM's with then a zerker(in my experience), but tank dungeons? No...I wan't no part in that. You'll see as you get to the end game how much pain we still take. Plate armor does nothing.

Quote: Pepperzine on 05/07/2012, 07:20 AM - view

Why should berserkers get to be optimized for dps AND tanking? I don't see why I can't crit with my lance for 30k+, thus I don't see why they should be able to do that AND tank.

If we're talking a glyph that increases threat but trades damage, I'd be willing to accept that. But I do not accept the damage that they can deal plus the idea of pulling Lancer threat, sorry.