My thoughts on free +12 items.

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actionjackson83 on 03/31/2012, 09:32 PM - view
According to information from K-tera players, +12 geared players can one shot a +9 player, so why wouldn't you want to be on even footing when rolling on a PVP server. Players just want the game to be more skill based than lucky one shot killed by an inferior player just because he lucked out and RNG'd a +12 weapon. Maybe if they didn't make the difference between +9 and +12 gear so severe people would stop QQ'ing about a harder road to +12. That way people can still brag that they got +12 have their feeling of acccomplishment and give them a slight edge in battle but not overwhelming.


It's an RPG. People are supposed to have different stats. Why do you want everyone to have the same stats anyway? That takes all the fun out of it. I happen to actually enjoy beating people when I have worse gear. It's way more rewarding and fun than beating another character that's exactly the same as mine is statistically.

I just don't get it. The game becomes so boring when everyone is playing the exact same character. Why do you people want this?
Edited by: Melona about 1 year ago
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BlindSide on 03/31/2012, 09:35 PM - view
Make the powders for +10-12 epicly rare.... liek a drop form a boss and it will be fun.


They don't need to be epicly rare.

1. They are going to be tearing money out your poop shoot as it is.

2. To simply get something that is +12 you have to get a critical success during the identification process.


Also it isn't going to be easy to get the enchants as I imagine with the removal of down grading items there will be a higher failure rate when attempting to enchant.

Also the revamp to the resealing and unsealing system will increase player interest making this from my perspective possibly the large gold sink for the game.
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Littleman on 03/31/2012, 07:55 PM - view
Rixxie on 03/31/2012, 07:23 PM

With how the new system is, you are going to REQUIRE the more expensive powders, which are now even more expensive, and don't forget how you will almost need blue/golds at +8 and higher as fodder.


This was a reality BEFORE the changes. Now the powders are hard locked into ranges, as opposed to the player picking which one they feel is the best deal. You didn't continue to use the white powders or white equips beyond +5, it just wouldn't work in your favor at all.

No, whatever anyone says about how this system still has detriments is WRONG. The -1/+1 was the issue, not the simple fact people spent tons of gold moving it anywhere. Now that the -1 of the equation is gone, it's simply an act of throwing enough $#!% at it until it moves forward. And again, what exactly are you going to spend your gold on when at the level cap?

What was once rare is now standard. This can not be argued. I'm not arguing the system should be changed back, and I know that's what it sounds like because I'm disagreeing, but I do think people are over exaggerating the "demands" of the newer system like it's actually more costly than it was before. It's not. It's extremely forgiving in comparison.

Sad part is, I know people will come racing to these forums eventually to ***** about the low success chance...



You make it seem like I'm complaining how it's more expensive... :(

Anywho, honestly yes, you pretty much needed blue/pink powders after a certain point, but you didn't have to use them, you could try your luck with just white, which most wouldn't even think of, but just stating you now have to use them, and that it will cost you, since people seem to think this new change means free +12s. D:


Stated this a few times already....my concern with the change tho....will the method of obtaining the powders be the same? If so, that means no +7 until we get Vanarcs/tons of people spamming fortune eggs, which I'm okay with, but would be nice to be 100% sure on the subject.
Edited by: Rixxie about 1 year ago
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Tazusa on 03/31/2012, 05:00 PM - view
You people who WANT there to be RNG because that gives you something to do at endgame? Do you realize all that means is that there is no content at endgame besides running the same instance over and over and over to get more golds? Whats the point of trapping people into that just to call it "content"?


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@OP source or it never happened. Infact what are you talking about? Why does everyone assume we know of every little change happening.

EDIT: Yes I did go to find the announcement, but my original point still stands. Source what you are talking about. And I think the changes are perfectly fine. I cannot stand RNG. RNG = me still having crap gear 2 years after a games release while jerks get lucky. Games shouldn't be about unfairly Holding the power it should be about having superior tactics, and solidarity.
Edited by: FacelessProject about 1 year ago
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Disagree with the OP, agree with EME.

Aion had the same penalty in enchanting and it was one of the #1 gripes players had with the game.
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People keep on getting confused about what HARD means and it sure as hell doesnt mean how long it takes, it means how Difficult
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MChrome on 04/01/2012, 12:20 AM - view
Tazusa on 03/31/2012, 05:00 PM
You people who WANT there to be RNG because that gives you something to do at endgame? Do you realize all that means is that there is no content at endgame besides running the same instance over and over and over to get more golds? Whats the point of trapping people into that just to call it "content"?


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Uhhhhh... the changes do nothing for endgame content. If there is none to begin with, there is none now (fortunately, there was and is endgame content regardless.)

@Rixxie: Honestly... I don't think vanarch accessed powders will be a concern. Anyone trying to +12 their equipment before level 40 has too much money to blow on alts. Vanarchs will be in their seats of power by the time people really need those powders to go beyond +7 or what ever.
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I just do not get it sighh. Look the problem is not the enchanting ok we get it you can still "fail"
the enchant so what? They took out the only real consequence. I mean everyone keeps complaining about end game is gonna have no content but then in a diff thread they are saying how longgg it takes to do something and crying. I mean even if you play casually you are going to get max level in a few weeks stop wanting the same thing everyone has a mmo is not meant to be "fair" sorry some people will put more time and effort into playing and you should not have the same items or +12's until you have put in the same effort stop crying about no content when you want everything in the first month
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then00b on 03/31/2012, 07:08 PM - view
Might I ask why the thread title calls this "free"?
I didn't know needing many mats was free, or is there an I WIN button on the enchant window?


As a gamer, I'm pretty surprised you couldn't make the connection of "free" meaning ridiculously easy.

Have you really never heard the term used like that?