You cant invite people after Finishing a queue for Instance matcher. Not from your server or from others. You have to re-queue for a random player.
So, someone is queue'd for 2+ hours, gets a instance pop. A group of 4 guildies get a instant pop, kick the 5th random player who now has to re-enter the queue from the bottom of the list and the guild group gets to re-enter 30 mins later due to queueing with LFD tool and this is ok because you can't re-invite someone?
Who is doing this?
Are you kidding me? People are advertising it in Area chats.
Stop being so naive.
ok whats the [filtered] point? They can kick you only to get other random person. Unless they want to 4 man it to get the shorter cooldown which doesn't matter because it doesn't apply to end game dungeons. Honestly though take out the cooldown reduction and you won't even see this issue again.
You cant invite people after Finishing a queue for Instance matcher. Not from your server or from others. You have to re-queue for a random player.
So, someone is queue'd for 2+ hours, gets a instance pop. A group of 4 guildies get a instant pop, kick the 5th random player who now has to re-enter the queue from the bottom of the list and the guild group gets to re-enter 30 mins later due to queueing with LFD tool and this is ok because you can't re-invite someone?
Who is doing this?
Are you kidding me? People are advertising it in Area chats.
Stop being so naive.
ok whats the [filtered] point? They can kick you only to get other random person. Unless they want to 4 man it to get the shorter cooldown which doesn't matter because it doesn't apply to end game dungeons. Honestly though take out the cooldown reduction and you won't even see this issue again.
You are missing the point.
The point is not end game, the point is not the fact that you can't replace someone after using the LFD tool.
The point is, *people* are being abused by pre-made teams to farm zones faster at the expense of a legit person sitting in the queue for 2+ hours.
Alot of people are getting pissed off by it. You shouldn't be able to kick anyone from a group imho unless they become AFK from standing idle or get disconnected and don't return after, say 5 mins.
I never agreed with the idea of having a shorter lockout from using the LFD tool anyways. The normal mod dungeons shouldn't have lockouts especially lower level ones. Any gear you get in there is replaced in 2 to 3 levels anyways.
You cant invite people after Finishing a queue for Instance matcher. Not from your server or from others. You have to re-queue for a random player.
So, someone is queue'd for 2+ hours, gets a instance pop. A group of 4 guildies get a instant pop, kick the 5th random player who now has to re-enter the queue from the bottom of the list and the guild group gets to re-enter 30 mins later due to queueing with LFD tool and this is ok because you can't re-invite someone?
Who is doing this?
Are you kidding me? People are advertising it in Area chats.
Stop being so naive.
ok whats the [filtered] point? They can kick you only to get other random person. Unless they want to 4 man it to get the shorter cooldown which doesn't matter because it doesn't apply to end game dungeons. Honestly though take out the cooldown reduction and you won't even see this issue again.
You are missing the point.
The point is not end game, the point is not the fact that you can't replace someone after using the LFD tool.
The point is, *people* are being abused by pre-made teams to farm zones faster at the expense of a legit person sitting in the queue for 2+ hours.
Alot of people are getting pissed off by it. You shouldn't be able to kick anyone from a group imho unless they become AFK from standing idle or get disconnected and don't return after, say 5 mins.
Thats why i said remove the cooldown reduction from LFD and the whole issue is solved. I understand its there because pug are more likely to wipe but if they want to do that they need to limit pre-made to 3 man max so they can't kick people.
You cant invite people after Finishing a queue for Instance matcher. Not from your server or from others. You have to re-queue for a random player.
So, someone is queue'd for 2+ hours, gets a instance pop. A group of 4 guildies get a instant pop, kick the 5th random player who now has to re-enter the queue from the bottom of the list and the guild group gets to re-enter 30 mins later due to queueing with LFD tool and this is ok because you can't re-invite someone?
Who is doing this?
Are you kidding me? People are advertising it in Area chats.
Stop being so naive.
ok whats the [filtered] point? They can kick you only to get other random person. Unless they want to 4 man it to get the shorter cooldown which doesn't matter because it doesn't apply to end game dungeons. Honestly though take out the cooldown reduction and you won't even see this issue again.
You are missing the point.
The point is not end game, the point is not the fact that you can't replace someone after using the LFD tool.
The point is, *people* are being abused by pre-made teams to farm zones faster at the expense of a legit person sitting in the queue for 2+ hours.
Alot of people are getting pissed off by it. You shouldn't be able to kick anyone from a group imho unless they become AFK from standing idle or get disconnected and don't return after, say 5 mins.
Thats why i said remove the cooldown reduction from LFD and the whole issue is solved. I understand its there because pug are more likely to wipe but if they want to do that they need to limit pre-made to 3 man max so they can't kick people.
Or just let 5 man groups queue. Would also solve the problem.
Than might as well just lower cooldown of all dungeon by half -.-
Or just remove them from normal mode dungeons and let the tool actually be used by people that NEED to find more members instead of a way to side step a poorly thought mechanic.
Than might as well just lower cooldown of all dungeon by half -.-
Or just remove them from normal mode dungeons and let the tool actually be used by people that NEED to find more members instead of a way to side step a poorly thought mechanic.
ya should just remove it lol there is no point in having cooldown on them because farming those gears are pointless. and the cooldown reduction don't even apply to end game dungeons. And last thing you want to do is do hard mode or some of the end game dungeon like Balder with pugs