No GvG on PvE servers?!

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coax on 2012-02-14 22:34:39 UTC

bingo.

thanks for pointing that out.

i cant think of something that would work in less than 5 seconds. you thought something that would work in more than 5 seconds.

we now have two ideas that might work.

problem solved.


While I think it would be fine if my idea was implemented, I still don't understand where this second idea is, unless you're referring to the two guild having a mutual agreement to GvG, in which case I was assuming that would have to be automatic, otherwise you could be left with players who still didn't get to make a choice before getting PvP'd on in the open world.

And if you're talking about leaving the guild being a solution, I still adamantly believe it is not.
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GladiatorBmo on 2012-02-14 22:26:59 UTC
I'm starting to really wonder how many people on these EU/NA boards realize that the game is already Gold in Korea and that 95% of the Servers on KR are PVP.

This game is NOT FOR PVE. IT IS A PVP GAME.

Got a problem with GvG not in PVE? Roll [filtered] PVP and stop crying.


Before you question how informed other people are, look towards yourself. K-TERA doesn't even have PvP servers. It also doesn't have PvE servers. All of its servers are PvPvE, leading to silliness like the old declaration system and their debuff version of Outlaw.



This is the kind of thing PvE players should make in feedback, if they really wanted this. Ask them to make a version for PvE servers will Guild vs. Guild has to be consensual, like a guild-wide competition more than a war. Both guild leaders must agree to the competition, and each individual member can choose whether or not tp participate. Something like that.
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coax on 2012-02-14 22:36:46 UTC
i can think of something**

thank you edit button.

point is. your basis your argument against a single situation that has a relatively easy to impliment solution. with more potential for work arounds when real effort is put into it.

it would be the same as joing a large scale pvp battleground, only its GvG and last 24 hours.

no seeing a problem here.


I think I just became more confused. But if you're saying that a flagging system within a mutual GvG would work, then I agree.
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[quote name='Impact1986' at='2012-02-14 22:33:55 UTC'][/quote]

I don't know where you're getting the idea that "you can leave the guild" is a justified solution to the problem. You can't say that someone should just "put up with it". They joined a PvE server to be in control of when PvP happens. Again, by having a GvG on a PvE server potentially takes that power away from the individual player who made the original choice, and the solution simply shouldn't be "just leave the guild" as that is in no way a proper solution.

If you want it to be in a PvE server, they should develop a flagging system for when your guild goes into a GvG, so the player can decide if they want to participate in it without having to leave the guild.

I'm also wondering where the "strongest" reasons for joining a PvE server are.[/quote][/quote]

Sorry for double post. Leaving the guild is a viable solution, so is joining a guild that does or doesn't partake in PvP). If you join a guild that wants to participate in GvG, while you do not. guess what?! find a different guild that suits your play style. You are NEVER forced to PvP and have choice regardless. your point is mute.
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Myxx on 2012-02-14 22:37:55 UTC


While I think it would be fine if my idea was implemented, I still don't understand where this second idea is, unless you're referring to the two guild having a mutual agreement to GvG, in which case I was assuming that would have to be automatic, otherwise you could be left with players who still didn't get to make a choice before getting PvP'd on in the open world.

And if you're talking about leaving the guild being a solution, I still adamantly believe it is not.


ok, whatever, forget that.

imagine this. EME comes up with a solution to that potential problem.

or hell. some other company. if you DO have a way to get out of the fighting(i still dont see why it would be that difficult to get the guild behind it, its no different than organizing any large scale content, like raids or any event) there would be no reason not to implement it in a pve server.
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of course at that point its just a matter of how complex or easy that system is to implement.

still tho. gona submit ticket and see what they say. maybe they just dont want it on pve server, or dont think we would want it.
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coax on 2012-02-14 22:40:52 UTC


ok, whatever, forget that.

imagine this. EME comes up with a solution to that potential problem.

or hell. some other company. if you DO have a way to get out of the fighting(i still dont see why it would be that difficult to get the guild behind it, its no different than organizing any large scale content, like raids or any event) there would be no reason not to implement it in a pve server.


I agree. Like the solution I suggested. I was fighting because there is a reason why, given it's current state, GvG shouldn't be allowed on PvE servers, and that leaving a guild is not something to be considered as a viable solution. I am however, as is indicated by my own suggestion, in agreeance with finding a solution to the problem.
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Let us know what they say coax. If they want to know if people want it, we'll let them now
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As a thoroughly PvE person, I have no issue with this. They had guild war declarations in EQ and on the rare occasions they occured, it put guild members like me in a quandary: get into a catfight with your guild leadership about the declaration, or leave, or stick around and become a target.

Non consensual PvP should remain on PvP servers, where it's welcome. As someone else says, this is just one more reason for people who really enjoy the suspense of sudden, unexpected PvP to play on the PvP servers, and keep their populations healthy. It seems most folks who enjoy both PvP and PvE like to be able to PvP when they want it, not at other times, so GvG wouldn't be missed by most of the mixed style players. They'll just roll on PvE servers and duel/battleground/deathmatch when the mood takes them.
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I don't quite get what the indignation over no GvG on a *PvE* server is? You want PvP, roll toons over on PvP servers.

And I've been hearing about how loud and vocal PvE players are? Gurl, PLEASE.