Open World PvP will FAIL

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Dreadspectre on 04/12/2012, 01:10 PM - view
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Graspin at straws buddy. I mean honestly, do you think people just go around making characters and never using them? Ok...

It's not even argueable, WoW ALONE is proof that PvE outweighs PvP still. PvP games are only recently showing up because

1. The PvP crowd has been meandering about for the last 2-3 years without any real solid game, many have tried and failed. While a smaller group, it's still sizeable enough to be profitable if the game succeeds.

2. Because it's about the only way a new MMO coming out these days can break away from the WoW mentality of games.



First off, i'm on your side. second, its not grasping for straws. Do i honestly think people made characters and didn't really use them? Yes, why? Cause the data even supports that. 16.5% never made it past level 1, 71% never made it past lvl 10. So if 71% of all char's never made it off newbie island, then how is that most characters being used? Please do explain that logic.

PvE always has a bigger following then PvP in these new MMO's, thats how its been since WoW. Though what i've been saying is, PvE games do not and never will do PvP well. It will always fail. If the game is not made around the idea of PvP as a core aspect of the whole game then its just not going to pull its weight among pvp communities.

Sadly, Tera is a PvE game. This doom's PvP in to a sub-par state by default. Which some people don't understand or attempt to deny it. We'll soon see the effects of it when PvP server population dies out quickly or All pvp on the server really does not exist in the first place ( at least outside instances).

Now, there are good hardcore pvp games out there. Its just most of the "PvP'ers" that claim to be hardcore, really are not hardcore. They are the Softcore you could say. This is why Theme-Park MMO pvp appeals to them. Like the system in tera. Which personally is not enough to sate my thirst.

Edited by: MadcatGTs about 1 year ago
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Lantini on 04/12/2012, 01:27 PM - view
And you know PVP was the most thing done how? I call BS on that.. I played wow at release.. Was very little pvp.


That's cause the PvP system wasn't out! are you [filtered] kidding me. And I was on a PvP server at release and what made the game actually fun is that you had to go find your PvP in a big persistent world. Where it actually felt like you were adventuring and living somewhere else. All you guys want now, including Skyy's post earlier, is some homogenized bull[filtered] arena PvP where you are put in some room and told to beat the [filtered] out of each other. Sure it can be more difficult because the team are always fair and yada yada but it takes away the feel of an MMO where you were out in the wilderness fighting and you could get attacked or you could go on a raiding party and go hunt people down. That's MMO PvP if you want the bull[filtered] you guys describe go play [filtered] LoL or DOTA or COD or other games where right away you are in an arena playing against other people and you can "test your skill."

People like you guys truly have ruined MMO's. BG's and Arena have their place sure, but to take away what is true MMO PvP is a load of [filtered], I enjoy it along with a lot of other people so shut the hell up.
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Jamus123 on 04/12/2012, 01:47 PM - view
Lantini on 04/12/2012, 01:27 PM
And you know PVP was the most thing done how? I call BS on that.. I played wow at release.. Was very little pvp.


That's cause the PvP system wasn't out! are you [filtered] kidding me. And I was on a PvP server at release and what made the game actually fun is that you had to go find your PvP in a big persistent world. Where it actually felt like you were adventuring and living somewhere else. All you guys want now, including Skyy's post earlier, is some homogenized bull[filtered] arena PvP where you are put in some room and told to beat the [filtered] out of each other. Sure it can be more difficult because the team are always fair and yada yada but it takes away the feel of an MMO where you were out in the wilderness fighting and you could get attacked or you could go on a raiding party and go hunt people down. That's MMO PvP if you want the bull[filtered] you guys describe go play [filtered] LoL or DOTA or COD or other games where right away you are in an arena playing against other people and you can "test your skill."

People like you guys truly have ruined MMO's. BG's and Arena have their place sure, but to take away what is true MMO PvP is a load of [filtered], I enjoy it along with a lot of other people so shut the hell up.


i think im inlove with you.... (no homo)
Devotchka Profile Options #74

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[quote name='Suroh' at='04/12/2012, 04:35 AM'][quote name='Lantini' at='04/12/2012, 04:25 AM']you're confuses me with a "new age gamer" hun [/quote]

Can everyone else see what a douche this guy sounds like? Making up terms and calling people "hun". I'm reminded of that southpark episode on WoW.

It takes all kinds to make a great PvP game experience, getting there doesn't involve alienating entire groups of people (most of which out number the ones doing the alienating). So its funny seeing these people talk as if they have designed, created and own the top rated pvp games everyone is now playing.

You know...that one.

The one that's really popular right now.

I guess we should all thank them for coming to Tera to inform us how PvP is best implemented, because they will be too busy playing that perfect gem they've already created and we are just stuck here playing this game :(

Opinions. Everyone has them. Not to be confused with facts.
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I was having some issues with the low lvl areas being camped by reds. Then I found a guild camping them killing all the pkers. I joined them. We are the ppl that go around and try to get the reds off your [filtered] when you complain about them in chat. Justice league or what not. Hit me up for a guild invite. Anyways, get in a guild for protection. If your guild is good they will come wipe the floor with those pkers.
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Why are all of the completely stupid threads the ones with the most replies?
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kDeviL on 04/13/2012, 01:26 AM - view
Why are all of the completely stupid threads the ones with the most replies?


the mods like them.....
Lantini Profile Options #78

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Devotchka on 04/12/2012, 02:00 PM - view

Can everyone else see what a douche this guy sounds like? Making up terms and calling people "hun". I'm reminded of that southpark episode on WoW.

It takes all kinds to make a great PvP game experience, getting there doesn't involve alienating entire groups of people (most of which out number the ones doing the alienating). So its funny seeing these people talk as if they have designed, created and own the top rated pvp games everyone is now playing.

You know...that one.

The one that's really popular right now.

I guess we should all thank them for coming to Tera to inform us how PvP is best implemented, because they will be too busy playing that perfect gem they've already created and we are just stuck here playing this game :(

Opinions. Everyone has them. Not to be confused with facts.


Privyet and well said. It cracked me up when he/she called me hun. I am most likely old enough to be his/her grandfather! HAH!

To PVP or not to PVP, that is a choice we have. If I get a wild hair, get bored with PVE, etc, I can always create a toon on a PVP server... choices are good :)
Edited by: Lantini about 1 year ago - Reason: clarity
EvilPig Profile Options #79

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REINSTATE XP LOSS UPON PVP DEATH, have all the carebear [filtered]es go back to WoW. WHo plays a game for the PVE, it's that difficult..entertaining? you guys must be retarded, if you like content, go read Twilight you pansies, theres no pvp there and you can still be shiny
Lokian Profile Options #80

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troll post, don't feed the trolls please.