Quote: wolftherian on 03/17/2012, 08:11 AM

Nah, most of em are being pulled up from the graves.

On a note related to the OP: someone posted a cross server or non cross server poll in a different thread. No-cross server was beating out cross server until they delete the poll link, it ended at 47.5% for and 52.5% against. Donno if I should repost it as I didn't make it and it's still an active poll.

Yeah. some of them are new. Some of them are old. I rather just keep necro'n this one since there is soo much in here. It might help keep people from posting new ones if they see this one...

Yeah, I saw that... It just reinforces that there is no 'majority'
There is no such thing as a majority when its 50/50... At this point, it is a matter of who EME wants to cater to. Either way, this debate won't stop. If we get X-server, many of us will be sad and probably only play a few months before getting tired of it. If we get no X-sever, many of us will act like children and cry until EME changes it to X-server but will end up playing for a few months longer (despite their anger).

Cross server automated grouping system is beyond horrible. The way I see it, the second you use a system like this, basically your group mates are nothing more than NPC with amazing AI.

Think about it. You do good dps, they do not say anything. Occasionally a random conversation can occur. If you are douche, your status with your group mates degrades and you may be removed. To you, you are no longer in the group and if you wish you can believe that that group no longer exists, kind of like in a single player game. In a single player group, if you grouped with NPCs, in most cases after you die (no in the group) they either die or despawn.

But in a single player game if you are in good standing with NPCs and you meet them again, it is beneficial to you. When you never meet them again, you can do whatever you like with no reprocussions. This is what happened in WoW and Rift. This is what will happen to SWTOR if it is cross server and same thing will happen here.

Social standing needs to matter.

Nobody is really going to leave if it is not included.

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Nobody is really going to leave if it is not included.

Straight up incorrect.

Quote: Magnijung on 03/17/2012, 10:54 AM

Cross server automated grouping system is beyond horrible. The way I see it, the second you use a system like this, basically your group mates are nothing more than NPC with amazing AI.

Think about it. You do good dps, they do not say anything. Occasionally a random conversation can occur. If you are douche, your status with your group mates degrades and you may be removed. To you, you are no longer in the group and if you wish you can believe that that group no longer exists, kind of like in a single player game. In a single player group, if you grouped with NPCs, in most cases after you die (no in the group) they either die or despawn.

But in a single player game if you are in good standing with NPCs and you meet them again, it is beneficial to you. When you never meet them again, you can do whatever you like with no reprocussions. This is what happened in WoW and Rift. This is what will happen to SWTOR if it is cross server and same thing will happen here.

Social standing needs to matter.

Oh man thanks for enlightening me. Guess we better tell all those FPS games with "Search for server/game type" this. Whenever you queue for a game in BF3 everyone's just a bot with better AI. Oh how about HoN/DotA2/League of Legends. Everyone's just a bot with better AI.

Man, better get the word out!

All LFD is a choice. People need to stop being selfish and thinking about themselves and think about who LFD would be good for. Most of you will be playing with your friends anyway, why are you being so annoying about a feature that would help people who don't play with "friends" all the time or play when the population is low? What difference does it make if it's cross server or not? Are you some competitive PVP doucher who is worried about playing with "the enemy"? Please grow up.

Most of you will play this game until you grow tired of rushing to end game then proceed to spend your last hours complaining about how dead it is, and how En Masse sucks for not merging servers.

Contrary to what some of your social lives are like not everybody is looking for life partners when they log on. If LFD has no use for you, and you're not going to use it what the hell is all this for? Mind your own business.

Quote: Phantasmio on 03/17/2012, 10:51 AM

For the love of god, please no Cross Server LFD.
I really enjoy meeting new people and making new friends on the servers I play on. With the addition of cross server, we will lose that social aspect.
As stated by another person earlier, ninja looting increase, OWPVP will be destroyed (why would you want your company to waste money making something that will not be used?), and you just will not make any new friends.
The people from other servers are people to you, they are just simply here to get through the dungeon and leave.

The ninja looting increase just invalidated your whole post. Just goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about.

Quote: Phantasmio on 03/17/2012, 10:51 AM

For the love of god, please no Cross Server LFD.
I really enjoy meeting new people and making new friends on the servers I play on. With the addition of cross server, we will lose that social aspect.
As stated by another person earlier, ninja looting increase, OWPVP will be destroyed (why would you want your company to waste money making something that will not be used?), and you just will not make any new friends.
The people from other servers are people to you, they are just simply here to get through the dungeon and leave.

The ninja looting increase just invalidated your whole post. Just goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about.

Quote: Gangaloo on 03/17/2012, 10:58 AM

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Nobody is really going to leave if it is not included.

Straight up incorrect.

How so? The only people that may leave are the true crybabies that want this game to turn into a WoW clone.
This game is great and well made. I don't believe people would leave just because they may have to walk to a dungeon. Plus, you dont even need cross server! I've played a Lancer and Slayer and with both classes, it took me very little time to find a group for a dungeon. Isn't the whole point of Cross Server to reduce queue times? The times to get into a dungeon aren't high enough for cross server inclusion.

Quote: Gangaloo on 03/17/2012, 10:53 AM

Quote: Phantasmio on 03/17/2012, 10:51 AM

For the love of god, please no Cross Server LFD.
I really enjoy meeting new people and making new friends on the servers I play on. With the addition of cross server, we will lose that social aspect.
As stated by another person earlier, ninja looting increase, OWPVP will be destroyed (why would you want your company to waste money making something that will not be used?), and you just will not make any new friends.
The people from other servers are people to you, they are just simply here to get through the dungeon and leave.

The ninja looting increase just invalidated your whole post. Just goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about.

It's obvious that you are just a troll who has no clue what is going on with this thread.
I've been playing MMOs since the day WoW first came out, when it was actually GOOD. I'm pretty sure I have a helluva lot better of an idea on what an ideal MMO is as opposed to your vague and pitiful knowledge.
Go back under your bridge so we can continue to have a decent debate about the LFD system, troll-free.