Suwayer
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I fully support this. I want the shops to stay
Vencenzo
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#12
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I had no problem with the shops to begin with.
LeakyFaucet
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#13
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The problem with player shops is, as mentioned before, the Clutter, FPS issues and looks like crap (imo) in towns especially near a AH. I know you said there is an option to turn off the player shops however that doesn't work when they're part of the market. If player shops are included they become a must if buying certain pieces of gear.
For example: Once end game comes around and crystal's become part of the market more, I will HAVE to go through all the shops to double check if a crystal is A) Available, B) Cheaper. If you want to save gold (which can be huge savings), or even find a certain item. There is no way to search all the shops like you can with the AH.
tl;dr - Player shops don't become optional when the market is directly influenced by them.
For example: Once end game comes around and crystal's become part of the market more, I will HAVE to go through all the shops to double check if a crystal is A) Available, B) Cheaper. If you want to save gold (which can be huge savings), or even find a certain item. There is no way to search all the shops like you can with the AH.
tl;dr - Player shops don't become optional when the market is directly influenced by them.
Easey
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LeakyFaucet on 03/14/2012, 10:20 AM - view
This pretty much why I hate personal shops.. Only game I liked that used personal shops were Rohan Online because you can search through EVERYONES personal shop through a search system to find a item.
The problem with player shops is, as mentioned before, the Clutter, FPS issues and looks like crap (imo) in towns especially near a AH. I know you said there is an option to turn off the player shops however that doesn't work when they're part of the market. If player shops are included they become a must if buying certain pieces of gear.
For example: Once end game comes around and crystal's become part of the market more, I will HAVE to go through all the shops to double check if a crystal is A) Available, B) Cheaper. If you want to save gold (which can be huge savings), or even find a certain item. There is no way to search all the shops like you can with the AH.
tl;dr - Player shops don't become optional when the market is directly influenced by them.
This pretty much why I hate personal shops.. Only game I liked that used personal shops were Rohan Online because you can search through EVERYONES personal shop through a search system to find a item.
SeraElf
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Eh, since they can be turned "off", I don't mind them as much. BUT, I also don't like not having access to *everything* being sold by a player from just 1 source. Which is why I'd prefer buying and selling to be just from 1 central place - the Broker. Just my preference, but I don't see the overall value in splitting up the markets so that you have to search the Broker and everyone's personal store to see everything for sale.
Azelle
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Dark Age of Camelot (DAoC) had player shop who were integrated into an auction house, same with Everquest 2. You could search on a broker and either buy from the broker and pay price+ taxes or check player shop location and go buy it there to save taxes!
Both lazy players and those who were trying to save gold had their piece of cake!
Both lazy players and those who were trying to save gold had their piece of cake!
msoltyspl
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Following fragment post in announcement forums:
It already was central. You changed it from central to the only possibility.
By their very nature - shops are meant for materials, consumables, exquisite items, large batch buying/selling where unconstrained quantity is important. They naturally complementing the AH.
What about buying ? what about avoidng taxes ? What about opening shops in places without broker ? What about no quantity constraints ? What about social/personal element ? What about players wanting from time to time to stress a few braincells ?
Anyone that was bothered with shops, could simply turn them off. One checkbox click and poof. It was simple win-win solution.
Mentioning shops in context of farmers is blatant excuse. It's YOUR job to remove farmers. Get a GM log in and do his/her job. Don't swap your laziness for dumbing down and crippling the game. And it's hardly any solution against RMT in the first place.
Quote: Chager on 03/14/2012, 09:06 AM
Removed private stores – we removed private stores from TERA so we could make the broker system the central hub of the player economy. We’ve increased the limit of items that can be sold from 8 to 50 and think this will help players to go to one place to find whatever they need
It already was central. You changed it from central to the only possibility.
By their very nature - shops are meant for materials, consumables, exquisite items, large batch buying/selling where unconstrained quantity is important. They naturally complementing the AH.
What about buying ? what about avoidng taxes ? What about opening shops in places without broker ? What about no quantity constraints ? What about social/personal element ? What about players wanting from time to time to stress a few braincells ?
Anyone that was bothered with shops, could simply turn them off. One checkbox click and poof. It was simple win-win solution.
Mentioning shops in context of farmers is blatant excuse. It's YOUR job to remove farmers. Get a GM log in and do his/her job. Don't swap your laziness for dumbing down and crippling the game. And it's hardly any solution against RMT in the first place.
Edited by: msoltyspl
about 1 year ago
DarthMeraj
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Please do NOT DO NOT KEEP PETS. They are eye spam, extremely Asian, and in my opinion very annoying/worthless. It kills the game for me when I walk into town and feel like I'm back in some [filtered] F2P Asian MMO. I am 1000000000% against having pets in this game.
SeraElf
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#19
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Yeah, as some others have pointed out - I'd be absolutely fine with player shops (only since they can be turned off) IF you could access their stock from the Broker also, like some other games have done.
Sovrath
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I'm very much for player shops. they allow players to set up buy and sell shops in areas that are decent for players to make a profit. I don't know if Tera's shops can be set up in the world but in Lineage 2 players would set up buy and sell shops outside of dungeons so they could sell supplies (or drops that were obtained in that dungeon) and buy materials for crafting.