Holy f*ck...how can you post in most of these same exact threads and still not understand that Cross-server mechanics affect everyone on the server whether they use the tool or not?

Jesus, get a clue, buy a vowel, use a lifeline...something.

How can you not understand that your opinion is not gospel truth, in fact I would say judging on the prevalence of LFD cross server tools, the reality is that its a good thing. And people may have bad experiences with it, but people have bad experience with chat spammed groups as well. All the LFD does is make it easier to get groups and get content.

It is not my opinion that this tool affects the entire server regardless of whether we use it or not. That is a fact taken from experience of playing most MMO's to come out in the last 12 years.

LFD systems ARE a good thing...just not the cross-server type. --- that part is the opinion.

Everything you want and keep asking for you can get with an In-server LFD. Again...fact, not opinion.

Two facts and one opinion.

Here's a good question, how many of the people voting 'yes' are only doing it because they want SOME KIND of LFD in the game?

In every single thread about this debate, most of the people who post do so with the assumption that the debate is "LFD or no LFD" and that is not the case at all.

You guys get most of your support from people who don't understand what's being debated.

Cross Server LFD and battlegrounds resulted in me losing interest in the community. Convenient for dungeons? Yeah, but I lose that whole enjoyment of actually playing with friends. Eventually I just stopped talking to anyone in game. Joined some level 25 guild that I do not know a single person in, and now I log in, do my weekly dungeons and raids and log off without saying anything to anyone.

The game is 100% more boring now because of that.

In-server LFDs provide the same conveniences with little to no downside. But that extra few minutes makes the "Me, Myself, Me and ME" players go bat-sh*t crazy and fight for a potentially cancerous mechanic to save them a few minutes.

It's disgusting, and everyone from EME I've talked to in e-mails about this agrees with me. Even the WoW Devs who first implemented this system when interviewed admit it was a mistake and wish they hadn't because of what it did to the community as a whole.

But whatever, it's not going to get through to people "Prove it's bad for community! Experience doesn't count!" will always be the response, and when Tera's community goes down the toilet, they'll still be happy because their gear slot-machine is still ticking away and they don't have to talk to anyone.

Quote: ValkyrieLaw on 2012-02-24 02:34:59 UTC - view

dont read it if you dont like it? how do you keep reading the exact same thing and get mad every single time?

the part people hate is actually interacting with the tool. solution, stop using it.

how does it bother me that some dude is terribad at the game, is an ahole and uses a tool i dont?

holy smokes, it doesnt, not even a little.

i got my guild, my parties and im doing good.

coax, LFD free since forever.

I think that while TERA experiences the inflation of players that come with a game's launch, cross-server LFD will not really be necessary. LFG channels on any given server should be booming for quite a while as people level up and want to experience the new content. However, as the game ages, LFD can be a great way to keep from having to merge servers (though it's not a great way to foster the community). In my opinion, LFD should be a card that they do not play until the time is right.

cross server LFG or battlegrounds is the worst idea of any mmo. unless it is server vs server pvp.

server community is what made any mmo great.

i vote no to any cross server groups
i vote no to any transfers

Quote: coax on 2012-02-24 02:17:59 UTC - view

This is a pretty ignorant post.. no one is pointing fingers at an LFD system for people in their party being less than good. By speaking for the people you are arguing with weakens your point :S

In my past 2 mmos (FFXI and WoW) the cross server function only seemed to take away from the mmo experience. In WoW there was no reason for any tank to have any morals at all lol. After any wipe in a dungeon, whether it was his fault or not, would leave the group in a rage and go on to get another insta-que through in cross server LFD.

However the community in FFXI I felt was much better since there was incentive to take part in group stuff. I think it helped the community because the people you grouped with were the people that youd see from day to day, creating friendships and such. It semi-forced you to invest time in the people you were playing with.

Not saying this cant happen with a Cross-Server LFD system, but it will happen less, and criple the community as a whole if one is implemented. Whether you use the system or not.