I think one of the issues were dungeon lockouts. I would play a tank and do a dungeon then be locked out. A few people would ask me if I could tank the dungeon but I tell them I can't because I'm locked for the day. The LFD tool bypasses the lockout allowing people to run dungeons all day long. If there's a lock out, remove it or make it short like 30 min to an hour or have none at all.
I think one of the issues were dungeon lockouts. I would play a tank and do a dungeon then be locked out. A few people would ask me if I could tank the dungeon but I tell them I can't because I'm locked for the day. The LFD tool bypasses the lockout allowing people to run dungeons all day long. If there's a lock out, remove it or make it short like 30 min to an hour or have none at all.
LFD system did not bypass dungeon lockout, it just automatically chose non locked-out dungeons for you. And this only came into play for heroics anyway. In CBT1 there was only a lockout if you reset while in the instance iirc.
Nor is this a post in favor of CROSS-SERVER LFD...just a post in favor of a LFD period. Which hardly anyone has ever been against.
ONCE AGAIN...
The only thing people are against is there being a cross-server mechanic added to the LFD tool.
Shouldnt even be worrying about a cross-server LFD tool anyway. IMO kinda says you dont trust the game will do well before its even being launched. Just my opinion. as for the vote on a LFD tool you have my support. (I know this thread isnt about cross-server but just for the sake of posting) Cross-server I do not condone any manner with.
This is a pretty ignorant post.. no one is pointing fingers at an LFD system for people in their party being less than good. By speaking for the people you are arguing with weakens your point :S
In my past 2 mmos (FFXI and WoW) the cross server function only seemed to take away from the mmo experience. In WoW there was no reason for any tank to have any morals at all lol. After any wipe in a dungeon, whether it was his fault or not, would leave the group in a rage and go on to get another insta-que through in cross server LFD.
However the community in FFXI I felt was much better since there was incentive to take part in group stuff. I think it helped the community because the people you grouped with were the people that youd see from day to day, creating friendships and such. It semi-forced you to invest time in the people you were playing with.
Not saying this cant happen with a Cross-Server LFD system, but it will happen less, and criple the community as a whole if one is implemented. Whether you use the system or not.
tanks you dont know have questionable morals.
making friends improves your experience.
i dont get it, you just said exactly what i been saying.
please, for the love of god, explain to me how im affected if i dont use it? i dont party with random people. how? how does it affect me that random person A is a Dbag?
since when has there EVER been accountability on the internet? i am so confused right now. how is a person i will never meet make it the worse for me? i can name 3 tanks right now that i know for a fact play the same times i do.
some other person A ill never meet uses LFD, some other person B who i will never meet is matched with person A . person A pisses person B off. loses his mind and rage quits.
i never learn of this. im never a part of this, im never involved in this.
how, how how how howwwwwwwww does having the LFD tool in the game make a [filtered] to me?
im really not understanding your mentality at all.
i dont get it, you just said exactly what i been saying.
please, for the love of god, explain to me how im affected if i dont use it? i dont party with random people. how? how does it affect me that random person A is a Dbag?
since when has there EVER been accountability on the internet? i am so confused right now. how is a person i will never meet make it the worse for me? i can name 3 tanks right now that i know for a fact play the same times i do.
some other person A ill never meet uses LFD, some other person B who i will never meet is matched with person A . person A pisses person B off. loses his mind and rage quits.
i never learn of this. im never a part of this, im never involved in this.
how, how how how howwwwwwwww does having the LFD tool in the game make a [filtered] to me?
im really not understanding your mentality at all.
it is about a community. think back before 2005-2006. that was a community. once cross servers opened up the community started to go to hell. people had no server loyalty and it cascaded once character transfers opened up.
the system indirectly affects you. not as faintly as a butterfly affect but it is there.
think of it as the game/server evolving into something else. starts out as a community where groups are formed. bonds are made. guilds emerge. people are held accountable for their actions. guilds would remove ... eh hem... good guilds that were worth being in... would remove players that were not up to standards of normal game society. there were consequences for being rude, ninja looting, griefing other players (like going afk in a dungeon on purpose to be dead weight), not knowing how to play your class, and many more...
you would be black listed and access to the good community of players would be cut off. you'd have to run groups of mostly other players who were often sub par in skill and gear since they were either fresh to lvl cap or black listed themselves.
once there is no community the game evolves into garbage which is the road WoW went down and many more MMO's followed as well.
and to relate to your viewpoint. how does this affect me the player in said guild?
by doing all these changes to a community the skill level of the player base drops. it lets the player get away with extremely sub par performance and doesn't encourage the player base to improve upon itself. either by taking personal accountability to be in the good standing of other good players or by creating that community of players that will reach out and help someone because they know they have a much better chance to group again with them. like helping that tank figure out how to LoS pull or healer how to regen mana more efficiently. or maybe teaching a dps a few tricks. and here's the cool part. because of this community the other person taking the advice is going to actually listen the majority of the time... why? because they are in fear of black listing or they want to stay with a good group and improve. they don't just rage and leave or retaliate with four letters and ignore advice and such.
this... this all lowers the entire player base's skill level. your player base. the group of ppl you are looking to fill out your guild and replace ones that leave so that you have that nice little buffer of people you can stand to party with. server population isn't always going to be 5-10k. in a title like this you want to get as many other players up to your level as you can. this leads to better pve pvp both players next to you and against you. making the game that much better.
if you still can't see the simple social aspect of the game and realize how completely different it is once accountability disappears then by all means ... ask for cross server lfg.
Stop QQ about community. If you want friends join a guild, and the GvG conflicts in this game will be plenty of community to go around. If you don't like LFD don't use it.
The reason the game must have a cross server LFD is because the people that don't like it don't have to use it, and the ones who do, can use it to enhance their game experience. Whereas if there is no LFD the people who don't have 6 hours a day to devote to an MMO will be screwed over and most likely not play the game at all, since they won't be able to access content in a timely manner.
Cross-server NO / Porting on a Pvp server NO. Kills communtiy and hurts O-Pvp. Will not go to a outside source to do a poll, and how the pollster words a poll decides how others vote.
An In-server LFD tool is great for the game and players with limited time. A cross-server LFD tool is bad for the game and the integrity of the server community overall.
3 hours? Please...
The difference between an in-server LFD and a cross-server LFD would be a few minutes, and makes all the difference for a lot of players who know what happens to games who implement cross-server mechanics.
Not true entirely, see when a server dies faster than the rest of servers... A cross server LFD is normally way faster.. Big example, ask anyone in WoW on a low population server, they love the fact they don't have to spend 15-30 to get a group.. The LFD tool for server only and not cross server, work good mostly at the launch of a MMO, when most person are new to the game...
Theres no need for a cross-server LFD tool in the first place since this game only has 4 servers and it's just starting so all servers will be very populated.