QoA Patch notes (Warrior Buffs)

Shekish Profile Options #1

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I feel this patch is a BAM. Big A.SS Mistake

FIrst, the Buff to warriors. Great, right? ... . As if they were not dealing AOE damage that cannot envy that of an slayer or a beserker, having the greatest HP pool from all ingame classes, and getting crazy invulnerability frames from their spammable dodge.

Now, this OP class (Even warrior friends admitted they were op), that is not only strong at earlygame, but scales in a crazy way with equipment making them top 1 pvp class, top 2 tank, 3rd most dps (besides sorc and slay) gets a BLOCK. Really?

I cannot discuss about their other skills. I think those fit warrior really well, i found the clone-backstab new one really funny, but block is going too far away. What warrior needed was actually a nerf on ENDURANCE stat (warriors got 60-70, lancer-zerk got 30-40, thehell?) and a few minor pvp nerfs. On the other hand, they should have been given:

1- The possibility to dodge in the same place (like "jumping" an attack) that gave them a minor invencibility frame. Now, a tank warrior must move the BAM all over the room to tank it.

2- They possibility to join instances as "tank class", fulfilling a higher item level requirement, while still being able to join as dps. (Lets say, if you need 100 item lvl for dps, 110 for tank)


Now the Lancer... Did they really need a backstep? They are actually fine as they are. If you let me use a WW2 idea, they were like the "elephant" german tanks. They had no turret, so they were an hybrid between a cannon platform and an actual tank. So they could just engage enemies on the front, and had to turn the whole tank to shoot at someone on your side.

Now, backstep will be silly to see on the lancer. Someone with full plate, jumping back like they did wear cloth armor. The nerf on lancer's shielding is no fun, however. Stamina will be a CRAP stat on lancer. No stamina = no block. They should have just raised the MP cost on stand fast, so they can use stamina and then, if they do block without stamina, the block takes a good chunk of MP.

Remember that lancers can only tank, while warriors can actually dish crazy amounts of DPS and are really versatile.



But well, thats what everyone that QQ'd that lancers were OP, when they werent got. Happy to ruin a fun class for the ones who actually enjoyed Them? (And werent beserker-kicker [filtered]s, i also hate those lancers who kick zerkers for loot)

As a priestess, with a lancer alt, ill miss lancers so much. I hope they are given some love, as warriors will be the favourite class of those people who cannot actually face that their character cannot have it all, so "dont nerf warrior" posts will be all over the forums.

I am also waiting (though i do not play them) on some Mystic & Zerker fixes.
Edited by: Shekish 12 months ago
lolwat Profile Options #2

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Can you link your sources OP?
Qilong Profile Options #3

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Heh heh

This bit of hyperbole had me laughing:
"AOE damage that cannot envy that of an slayer or a beserker"

If it cannot envy that of a Slayer or Berserker, it must be superior. If it DOES envy the other classes' aoe capability, then it desires to be that good. That's what envy means, and why people mixing up their idioms fail when they also fail basic English.

"top 2 tank"
There are two tanks in this game. Lancer is the more preferred, Warrior better only when skill is high, and then sometimes only on certain bosses. Because there are only two tanks, one will be "better" than the other, thus the other will be "worse." If one is "best," the other must be "worst." This is what you get when you have a plot with only two points on it.
Tman229 Profile Options #4

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lolwat on 05/31/2012, 10:11 AM - view
Can you link your sources OP?


https://forum.tera-europe.com/showthread.php?t=97015

It's the second part of an korean interview that someone translated.
Tarq Profile Options #5

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Sorry OP, your credibility on knowledge of other classes went down the drain when you said Warriors should be given a skill to dodge in place. Such a skill already exists for warriors.

And you should probably wait and see how much damage the new block would actually absorb before the qq
linofer Profile Options #6

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Shekish on 05/31/2012, 10:08 AM - view
I feel this patch is a BAM. Big A.SS Mistake

FIrst, the Buff to warriors. Great, right? ... . As if they were not dealing AOE damage that cannot envy that of an slayer or a beserker, having the greatest HP pool from all ingame classes, and getting crazy invulnerability frames from their spammable dodge.

Now, this OP class (Even warrior friends admitted they were op), that is not only strong at earlygame, but scales in a crazy way with equipment making them top 1 pvp class, top 2 tank, 3rd most dps (besides sorc and slay) gets a BLOCK. Really?

I cannot discuss about their other skills. I think those fit warrior really well, i found the clone-backstab new one really funny, but block is going too far away. What warrior needed was actually a nerf on ENDURANCE stat (warriors got 60-70, lancer-zerk got 30-40, thehell?) and a few minor pvp nerfs. On the other hand, they should have been given:

1- The possibility to dodge in the same place (like "jumping" an attack) that gave them a minor invencibility frame. Now, a tank warrior must move the BAM all over the room to tank it.

2- They possibility to join instances as "tank class", fulfilling a higher item level requirement, while still being able to join as dps. (Lets say, if you need 100 item lvl for dps, 110 for tank)


Now the Lancer... Did they really need a backstep? They are actually fine as they are. If you let me use a WW2 idea, they were like the "elephant" german tanks. They had no turret, so they were an hybrid between a cannon platform and an actual tank. So they could just engage enemies on the front, and had to turn the whole tank to shoot at someone on your side.

Now, backstep will be silly to see on the lancer. Someone with full plate, jumping back like they did wear cloth armor. The nerf on lancer's shielding is no fun, however. Stamina will be a CRAP stat on lancer. No stamina = no block. They should have just raised the MP cost on stand fast, so they can use stamina and then, if they do block without stamina, the block takes a good chunk of MP.

Remember that lancers can only tank, while warriors can actually dish crazy amounts of DPS and are really versatile.



But well, thats what everyone that QQ'd that lancers were OP, when they werent got. Happy to ruin a fun class for the ones who actually enjoyed Them? (And werent beserker-kicker [filtered]s, i also hate those lancers who kick zerkers for loot)

As a priestess, with a lancer alt, ill miss lancers so much. I hope they are given some love, as warriors will be the favourite class of those people who cannot actually face that their character cannot have it all, so "dont nerf warrior" posts will be all over the forums.

I am also waiting (though i do not play them) on some Mystic & Zerker fixes.


ROFL you must be a Lancer.
Travesty9090 Profile Options #7

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On the other hand, they should have been given:

1- The possibility to dodge in the same place (like "jumping" an attack) that gave them a minor invencibility frame. Now, a tank warrior must move the BAM all over the room to tank it.



....you mean like Death From Above, which is one of the main staples of current warrior tanking?

lol
NickValenz Profile Options #8

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Where the hell u saw warriors are getting a block? they are going to get lots of evasion rolls in a row, but not a block O.O
ThaiGRR Profile Options #9

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ROFL you must be a Lancer.


she said she mains a priest with a lancer alt. you must have a problem with reading comprehension.

and i`m pretty sure that they won`t make the warrior block equal to that of a lancer, otherwise there will be no reason to play a lancer as a tank, because warriors will have a block and 4 evasives. i would say it`s more for trash mobs, and not really useful on a boss.
Edited by: ThaiGRR 12 months ago
Travesty9090 Profile Options #10

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NickValenz on 05/31/2012, 10:36 AM - view
Where the hell u saw warriors are getting a block? they are going to get lots of evasion rolls in a row, but not a block O.O


Actually they are getting a block.