Queen of Argon Part 2 Info

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To Cesmode, the changes to warriors do NOT put warriors even with lancers. It puts them above them now. They already can do good dps AND now they will be able to tank as well as a lancer(assuming they are given a high block rate). If they want to make it even, then give lancers the toolsets to be dps as well as tank also. Of course this is all speculation til we all see it live but atm on paper, it seems warriors will be the new fotm. Maybe its time to roll up my lancer and hop on the warrior bandwagon ;) Of course the best part is gonna be peopel thought it sucked when lancers booted zerkers for loot, now you gonna have tank warriors booting dps warriors for loot since now you will prolly end up with 4 leather classes all fighting for loot haha.
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iampiano Profile Options #42

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This is the stupidest [filtered] I've ever seen added to an MMO.

So warriors now can: DPS like a beast, tank like a beast, has more utility than ANY other class in the game, and gets a neat little backstab move.

Berserkerers are: Kicked from groups, mocked during instances (I've had to defend more than one Zerk in an instance, and threaten to boot anyone making anymore snide comments)

Archers: Kicked from groups, although less often, and mocked after boss fights.

So instead of balancing the underdogs, or making a completely new tank class to spruce up queues, you decide to make one class overwhelmingly overpowered?

Never go full retard, EME.
zeruel1223 Profile Options #43

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Why are you guys posting on an internet forum?! The sky is falling, so grab your family and hoard the food! It's Armageddon I tells ya!

In all seriousness stop crying before the patch even happens. Berserkers are getting huge buffs, Lancers already have abilities that warriors do not have, including more stuns on demand, the superior leashing ability, and the shout buffs. And the patch adds more, apparently. No, every single lancer in the game is not going to reroll warrior after this patch, and the patch doesn't make lancers worthless.

And finally, maybe those hourlong queues will become 20 minute queues after this patch. Everyone wins. Except the lancers that abused their "godlike" status. They lose.
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iampiano on 05/31/2012, 06:54 AM - view
This is the stupidest [filtered] I've ever seen added to an MMO.

So warriors now can: DPS like a beast, tank like a beast, has more utility than ANY other class in the game, and gets a neat little backstab move.

Berserkerers are: Kicked from groups, mocked during instances (I've had to defend more than one Zerk in an instance, and threaten to boot anyone making anymore snide comments)

Archers: Kicked from groups, although less often, and mocked after boss fights.

So instead of balancing the underdogs, or making a completely new tank class to spruce up queues, you decide to make one class overwhelmingly overpowered?

Never go full retard, EME.


1) Zerks just got a buff and another is on the way apparently.

2) I've heard archers are supposed to be buffed.

3) The only information given thus far is on warriors/lancers/zerkers, wait for the rest of it.

4) You don't know the specifications of warriors block at all, this is all speculation on your part.

5) This has absolutely NOTHING to do with EME.


All you did was cry and didn't even notice they are adding 3 new instances, Raid UI for nexuses and different stages, 10v10 and 15v15 battlegrounds.

People only like to talk about the negatives...
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Ellyidol Profile Options #45

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A big difference between Lancer and Warrior for me is still Heavy vs Leather.

In fact, I think Lancer weapons should even have a base defense addition to it. I found it quite weird that the lance - shield duo only had attack on it.
Sahm Profile Options #46

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They are giving lancers backstep. So, essentially, warriors are getting a weak frontal block (like a zerks) and lancers are getting a weak dodge (one direction only). It actually seems fairly balanced. I have both a 52 lancer tank, and a 30 warrior tank and I can honestly say that while playing my lancer I wish I had a wee bit more mobility like the backstep, and while playing my warrior I always wanted a weak frontal block for trash mainly. Good stuff.
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Slubber on 05/31/2012, 06:42 AM - view
The warriors damage tool is buffing everyone in the party, not just them, so if you have a warrior in party your dps as a Zerk will be buffed as well.

Also, 20% charge reduction is more significant than it is being made out to be.


I'm fully aware of how significant a 20% charge reduction is. I'm just a bit butthurt that after all this time, instead of addressing core mechanics problems with the class and how it plays, they decided to essentially let them attack more often. Which in the end is a dps buff and what zerkers need. But I'm not super happy with the direction they're going here.

And that "tool for buffing everyone in the party" that warriors have? That just argues even more in favor of warriors because on top of great dps, they provide utility to the party. Zerkers don't really do that.
Sauzo Profile Options #48

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I agree faster queues would be nice but why not give the lancer class a little more pizazz or make them more tempting to play. I personally think half the reason you dont see many high level lancers is that low dps tank classes are just a pain to level and so most people quit em. Where as now with warriors, you just need to carry 2 set of crystals and bam, you can solo level as fast as a dps yet tank an instance as good as a "true" tank(lancer). Wheres the downside?
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Slubber on 05/31/2012, 06:56 AM - view
iampiano on 05/31/2012, 06:54 AM
This is the stupidest [filtered] I've ever seen added to an MMO.

So warriors now can: DPS like a beast, tank like a beast, has more utility than ANY other class in the game, and gets a neat little backstab move.

Berserkerers are: Kicked from groups, mocked during instances (I've had to defend more than one Zerk in an instance, and threaten to boot anyone making anymore snide comments)

Archers: Kicked from groups, although less often, and mocked after boss fights.

So instead of balancing the underdogs, or making a completely new tank class to spruce up queues, you decide to make one class overwhelmingly overpowered?

Never go full retard, EME.


1) Zerks just got a buff and another is on the way apparently.

2) I've heard archers are supposed to be buffed.

3) The only information given thus far is on warriors/lancers/zerkers, wait for the rest of it.

4) You don't know the specifications of warriors block at all, this is all speculation on your part.

5) This has absolutely NOTHING to do with EME.


All you did was cry and didn't even notice they are adding 3 new instances, Raid UI for nexuses and different stages, 10v10 and 15v15 battlegrounds.

People only like to talk about the negatives...


1) Just because Zerks got a buff in Korea doesn't mean we'll see the change anytime soon.
2) You heard. That means allot.
4) I can read, and comprehend what I read. The linked page said it works just like lancers block, only it didn't mention the damage percentage reduction.

The fact that they can hold down M2 to blocks ridiculous. I could see them parrying, as in they have to time their block to parry, but just holding down M2s stupidly overpowered with their current set of tools.

It really just sounds like you want to be an unstoppable warrior.
Slubber Profile Options #50

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Iampiano, maybe if you read he stated the translations aren't perfect and everything is not confirmed and subject to change, also more information can be revealed at a later time.

Also even if it works like a lancers block, you don't know how much it blocks, it could be extremely insignificant and only used to make tanking trash mobs easier.

Also yeah we don't know when Zerk changes will come here, WE ALSO don't know when these ones will and theyll definitely be later than the Zerk changes because these ones dont even have an ETA.

So no, I'm not trying to be an unstoppable warrior.