Min/Maxers are the reason nerfs happen.
They are the reason exploits are found.
They are the reason people get kicked out of parties because of their class.
They are the reason any game that has customization, everyone uses the same build.
They are the reason creative gamers get ostracized.
They are the reason developers have to homogenize everything for "balance"

There is little to nothing the community would be the poorer for if there was nobody here obsessing with numbers and minute [filtered] differences between swing lengths and 1% racials.


If everyone just played the damn game instead of mining and scrutinizing every freaking binary aspect of it, TERA; particularly its endgame would be a far less hostile place.

Ugh... really? Min-maxers ruin games.

No, you don't need that 1% crit. It's basically ignorable once you start getting decent gear. Play whatever race you would like to.

Ugh... really? Min-maxers ruin games.

No, you don't need that 1% crit. It's basically ignorable once you start getting decent gear. Play whatever race you would like to.

Min/Maxers are the reason nerfs happen.
They are the reason exploits are found.
They are the reason people get kicked out of parties because of their class.
They are the reason any game that has customization, everyone uses the same build.
They are the reason creative gamers get ostracized.
They are the reason developers have to homogenize everything for "balance"

Quote: Tiresias on 06/21/2012, 06:09 PM

Ugh... really? Min-maxers ruin games.

No, you don't need that 1% crit. It's basically ignorable once you start getting decent gear. Play whatever race you would like to.

Ugh...when groups are kicking you because there is better max DPS ......

Hello???

Can you provide 'solid proof' my statement is false?



You just have to look at most games that have released in the past few years to realise that they simply aren't making them the way they used to. The casual gaming trend has reduced most games on the market to spoon-feeding consumer oriented slop. I need not point past recent 'hardcore' IP's degraded by this marketing scheme such as Diablo 3, a game that left many old school players with a sour taste in their mouths. Smash Bros Brawl, a watered down and competitively weak shadow of what Melee once was. Marvel vs Capcom 3 - dumbed down with comeback mechanics to appeal to non-competitive gamers. And don't even get me started on SF vs Tekken.



Games targetted towards min-maxers though, in recent years have brought us the amazing yet rare gems such as Dark Souls, a deep and rewarding singleplayer RPG lauded for it's hard-yet-fair slogan, Borderlands - a game that kept me well occupied for years simply because of it's amazing loot generation, and on the more general-rated scale of things, Pokemon B/w, which contains NO END of potential min-maxing while still managing to be consumer friendly and accessible to a broad crowd without resorting to casual gimmicks.



I do not want Tera to be come a westernised primordial sludge just because of the current awful gaming market trends. It has a lot of room to be a deep and involving MMO that could run so well with the concept of rewarding dedication with power. There is a reason Dio Brando is one of the most badass villains of all time - because time powers are overpowered because time -is- power. In MMOs, the time you spend pursuing a goal, learning, dedicating and perfecting is what should give you rewards. Not your entitlement to 'skill' because you have a job and a so-called life outside the game and therefore can't afford to put your time into it. Min-maxers are the ones who dive into a product, rip it to pieces and enjoy and learn and appreciate every little loving detail the developers put into their baby. That is truly getting everything you can out of a product and truly playing the game for everything it's worth by understanding it's mechanics and tricks in search of that elusive perfection.



For the shallow gamer, it seems like a waste of time and sapping the 'fun' out of something that's 'just a game'. Because for some reason a lot of people believe that having fun involves remaining ignorant about as much as possible, and avoiding any kind of dedication.



/minirant