I love Min/Maxers, simply because that is how I get my information on how to play my toon the right way. I am not a smart person with numbers. At all. But I always want to make sure that I am doing everything right to bring the best performance I can to a group. Because of them, in any game I have played, I do well and people always want me in their groups. I know how to stay out of fire, when to move because a boss is making that certain animation, and everything else practical that a good player will know. What I don't know is how to calculate crit modifiers vs X boss in X situation with X players in my group providing X buff. Just goes over my head. But someone figures it out, posts it, I follow it and profit.
God bless min/maxers. If you chose to disregard them, that is your loss.
It's pretty easy to figure out the right way yourself, you just run your own tests in-game. But then, are you really playing the right way, following number crunchers? Up til I got Fireblast, the highest DPS I did with my Sorc was to close range stuff with Flame Pillar (which I still use, if rarely for mopping up weak stuff that got too close for ranged.) Followed up with glacial escape, followed up with magma bomb or ice needle. Nobody's going to tell you to play that way on a forum, because min maxxers usually only cater to endgame stats, as those are highest. So I've changed the way I play, from getting in a close range attack when there was an opening, to learning to maximise use of Fireblast and Hail Storm.
The thing is, I'm level 59 now, and I go to the thread that all the min maxxers seem to be chatting in, about maximising Sorceror. They are using the same glyphs as me, and the same crystals as me. The only thing they thought of that I haven't, was the lightning trap glyph where you cancel out and get 20% attack on Fireblast. And they're all arguing amongst themselves about whether they shold use that, or glyph of the pump, which um, again, I have.
All this data is in the game, and if you play the game and watch the damage you do, and try various glyphs, you don't really need anyone to tell you what to do and how to play because you can learn all by yourself. You really can. Just watch your damage with various setups. I haven't even written mine down, it's just been a case of "Oh, those numbers are high, this is a good setup." It doesn't need me telling a billion people how to play.
Warrior, lancer and priest, same deal. Don't need to be told how to play, I prefer to learn myself.
So yeah, I disregard the min/maxxers and I can't say it's affected me any. Just watch your damage, use your head, and enchant everything you can, and when it fails you don't need a notebook to mark down how many failures, just use this line of thinking:
"I'll chuck some fodder at my weapon and if they fail it's clearing my inventory space anyway."
Because I keep all the junk given to me as enchanting fodder up through the levels, and my bank is bursting with junk I saved for my alts.
God bless min/maxers. If you chose to disregard them, that is your loss.
It's pretty easy to figure out the right way yourself, you just run your own tests in-game. But then, are you really playing the right way, following number crunchers? Up til I got Fireblast, the highest DPS I did with my Sorc was to close range stuff with Flame Pillar (which I still use, if rarely for mopping up weak stuff that got too close for ranged.) Followed up with glacial escape, followed up with magma bomb or ice needle. Nobody's going to tell you to play that way on a forum, because min maxxers usually only cater to endgame stats, as those are highest. So I've changed the way I play, from getting in a close range attack when there was an opening, to learning to maximise use of Fireblast and Hail Storm.
The thing is, I'm level 59 now, and I go to the thread that all the min maxxers seem to be chatting in, about maximising Sorceror. They are using the same glyphs as me, and the same crystals as me. The only thing they thought of that I haven't, was the lightning trap glyph where you cancel out and get 20% attack on Fireblast. And they're all arguing amongst themselves about whether they shold use that, or glyph of the pump, which um, again, I have.
All this data is in the game, and if you play the game and watch the damage you do, and try various glyphs, you don't really need anyone to tell you what to do and how to play because you can learn all by yourself. You really can. Just watch your damage with various setups. I haven't even written mine down, it's just been a case of "Oh, those numbers are high, this is a good setup." It doesn't need me telling a billion people how to play.
Warrior, lancer and priest, same deal. Don't need to be told how to play, I prefer to learn myself.
So yeah, I disregard the min/maxxers and I can't say it's affected me any. Just watch your damage, use your head, and enchant everything you can, and when it fails you don't need a notebook to mark down how many failures, just use this line of thinking:
"I'll chuck some fodder at my weapon and if they fail it's clearing my inventory space anyway."
Because I keep all the junk given to me as enchanting fodder up through the levels, and my bank is bursting with junk I saved for my alts.
Ippiki, you obviously have never encountered a dps check, or, more importantly, an enrage timer. Your lackedasical mentality IS what is ruining MMOs because easy does not equal longevity. Were you ever lucky enough to be a server first at slaying a dragon with 39 of your guildmates after six hours of trying? The amazing feeling of accomplishment is what made vanilla wow fun. Same went for EQ 1 way back in the day. Players like you, who only care about casual day to day questing or running a dungeon are the ones who don't see the forest (ie truly difficult end game content) thru the trees (flash in the pan single player to five man group questing \ dungeons).
Sit back, enjoy being a scrub, and stop posting for postings sake! Or, at least use the proper crystals to crit for half a million vs 100k...
Haha I only care about casual gaming because I taught myself how to play and don't listen to you, yet somehow manage to get it right anyhow. That's a... bit of a stretch.
Listen puppy, you're talking to an ex games journo who's been gaming since the early 80s.
I don't want this to be easy, I don't know where the heck you got that from. I don't like casuals ruining games either. But somebody who's on the game 5 hours a day sure ain't casual by any stretch.
I do remember early min maxxers playing Pacman by memorising the exact places to turn to never hit a ghost, you know just remembering a map and following it. A computer can do that, and it's boring. Play from your instincts, use your skill and intuition. Whoever mentioned the Streetfighter comparison was right.
Could you, would you play the most maligned setups, and succeed anyway?
Oh, and I never played WoW, I played something like it though. Got into a battle, pointed and clicked a monster, watched my character attack... well, that's it?
Sure you can min max to hell and back in that game, because stats are the only factor. Same as Pokemon really. I don't like that gameplay, I'm sorry. I love the stats, I love maxxing them, I love challenging content, but it's still heartwarming to see a good player try hard without having the equipment to kill stuff faster, but still managing.
Why are people so afraid of those that don't have time to play 24/7 being better than them? I mean it just seems like people use the argument that if you have a life, you shouldn't be able to do well playing a game for no other reason? What? Would it make it seem like you wasted your lives away if someone else can naturally pick up a game or learn it faster than you?
Being able to do well in a game shouldn't mean just putting massive amounts of time into it; it should be about understanding the basic mechanics of the game and how well and how precisely you can use them to your advantage.
Lets use Call of Duty for example, at one point it was a fun and entertaining franchise worthy of being competitive (...well maybe... just maybe....), you learned the basic functions of the combat and maybe one trick or two to do well. If you had any common sense at all, you could pick up the game and rape face against most people in pubs. Here is the kicker though: like 99% of players couldn't understand the basic concepts of point and shoot, sneaking around, and basic ambush tactics. These "casuals" whined and complained that they couldn't 360 no scope and other pointless garbage (dual wielding shotguns anyone... oh god bad memories...), which eventually the devs cave into (probably due to pressure from the publishers) due to 90% of the player base being complete noobs (and where the money is at, even though most of the players of this time play for only a short period and go play somethings else in most cases) and turned the game to complete [filtered].
The pattern follows with other online games; it's not that games should take massive amounts of time to be good at, but that we get player that want garbage mechanics because they want to "360 no scope" in a game that has absolutely no scenario that should allow for that sort of thing to happen.
I wish I could play video games 24\7. Reality dictates I have a job where I wake up at 5 am, and get off work around 530pm, still have to take care of a family at home, and maybe, just maybe, find time to play a game or two. That being said, I don't understand why you would poo poo the idea of mathematically selecting your gear \ crystals in tera to maximize efficiency. Gear selection, setup, plus a decent rotation will double, even triple your dps output, allow you to kill more, in a shorter amount of time, and many times, allow you to beat the almighty enrage timer. (which is the "you suck so bad the BAM just hit the IWIN button")
Doing something for fun might be your cup of tea, but doing something better is why you are here. Call it min maxing, call it srs bsns, at the end of the day, you want to do it right.
I am the casual player same as Xith, with wife and kids at home, looking for that time to enjoy a game. ME TIME. I believe that as long as you can understand how things work, what does what, and can make a character that best suits your play style, then you should succeed and can.
I don't want anything given to me, I like most of the people posting here, want to EARN it. But in a resonable amount of time and effort. I like the grind in gaming, I believe that is what makes you good at what you do, gives you the experiance to play your toon the best way that suits YOU. As such know what your job is, learn it, perfect it, and good things will rain from the heavens. I am by no means an expert, nor have I played MMO's for very long. This is just my opinion and what I have learned.
TERA is a beautiful game and I truly love the combat system, actually there is alot that I like about this game, but it seems that its just not complete. Since this thread is about Races, there should be more drastic differances between races maybe even between male and female. A huge Aman should natuarly be stronger, have bonuses with melee, cuz he/she is born that way. But on the same token should have problem areas aswell. Elin(cute things that remind me of my daughter) I think should excell in magic or something of the like, but for this tiny creature to put up the same numbers as an Aman is just ridiculous. True the Aman Zerker would do more damage than the Elin, of course, but he/she should not be as fast, nor gain MP as fast and is naturally slower. It just makes sense.
If the point is just for looks, you shouldn't be able to choose from differant races, make toon customization more detailed. Long I know but I had to say it.
Thank you for your time.
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Critical either has a cap or it has diminished return. Do the 1% bonus is negligible. In face the high elf instant mp refill ability is tons better than castonics, especially if you play sorc.