Rerolling stats on a Masterwork item makes it weaker?

Halp Profile Options #1

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Notice the difference in attack and impact modifier bonuses despite it being the same item and enchant level.

With limited info, it seems that once you get masterwork and then keep rerolling modifiers, your stats gradual become weaker. There is a limit to how much it will degrade, and you reach that limit pretty quickly (less than 5 tries).

I'm not sure if this is a bug or something new introduced with the revamped masterwork system. But to those who spent all that time and money into crafting and gathering the mats, please be aware of this. The difference in stats isn't that much, but it does suck to invest all of this time only to have it another layer of RNG separate those who spent the same amount of time and effort on the same item. This is the worst kind of RNG because you can't reverse the process (as far as I know).

EDIT: I am wrong. Quote from Tempest with the higher stat weapon
Finish on 06/11/2012, 12:03 PM
HI I SEE MY SWORD LOL. but no rerolling masterwork mods on a weapon dont decrease it, Ive already rerolled that pos weapon like 20+ times b4 i got the stats thats in that ss. what it seems like is that halps weapon got buged somewhere along the line since all +9 weps are ilvl 151 o.O

Also note that I have a couple of friend who's crafted mastercraft weapon is item lvl 149. Also one who is 151 but has same modifiers as my sword. My guess so far...the modifier % bonus you get each time you mastercraft is random. Only need to confirm if this value can improve. So far I can only confirm it can go down. Will need other sources of info since I am not willing to invest the gold needed to test this.

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Kryzec on 06/11/2012, 11:27 PM
So I decided to try my hand at rerolling the 2 bad stats my +7 Plowshare had. It had (+832) before, first time I ever rerolled it went up to (+870), tried once more and it's now at (+908) attack modifier. Interesting.

So the stats are REVERSIBLE - at least that's some good news. Now we wait to see if this is all intended but it seems like it is.

Thanks everyone for their help/info sorting through this.
Edited by: Halp 12 months ago
zeruel1223 Profile Options #2

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I'm going to guess that it has something to do with that item level changing. On yours, it is 149. On tempest's, it is 151.
Delsaber Profile Options #3

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That is [filtered]. :\
Halp Profile Options #4

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zeruel1223 on 06/11/2012, 10:35 AM - view
I'm going to guess that it has something to do with that item level changing. On yours, it is 149. On tempest's, it is 151.


Right, but the item level shouldn't be different in the first place since it's an identical weapon. Let me wait for another friend to get on to get a screenshot. He was the one who helped me confirm that stats get worse through the process. He has the same attack/impact modifier as I do now but I believe this item level is still 151.
badpanda Profile Options #5

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halp meeeeee
zeruel1223 Profile Options #6

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Halp on 06/11/2012, 10:40 AM - view
zeruel1223 on 06/11/2012, 10:35 AM
I'm going to guess that it has something to do with that item level changing. On yours, it is 149. On tempest's, it is 151.


Right, but the item level shouldn't be different in the first place since it's an identical weapon. Let me wait for another friend to get on to get a screenshot. He was the one who helped me confirm that stats get worse through the process. He has the same attack/impact modifier as I do now but I believe this item level is still 151.

You should both unequip and reequip your weapons, noting the stat change, to verify that the displayed stats are actually what are being applied to your characters. Its a long shot, but it may be that the tooltip is just wrong and you are both getting the same benefit.
SouleD Profile Options #7

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Can We Get A Confirmation On that Please?

PS: It would be about [filtered] time For Enmasse to make some USEFULL GUIDE '=.= . Like On their new Enchanting System Or Masterwork, HOW IT WORKs In Depth.
Flamez Profile Options #8

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If halp is right, will the weap become weaker too if you reroll the modifiers "before" your weap is masterworked?
KonpakuYoumu Profile Options #9

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This is bull[filtered], in all honesty. If a change like this is going to be made, [filtered] TELL US BEFORE WE PERMANENTLY DAMAGE OUR END-GAME GEAR.
Anaxie Profile Options #10

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OMG now I'm certain this game is going to die.
That is the funniest thing I have seen in this game.
Edited by: Anaxie 12 months ago