I knew it would be just a matter of time before the "raiders" entered the discussion lol
I'm in the "fluff" group. I want more "fluff."
More housing, better crafting, remodeling, RP-friendly features, animations, convenient grouping tools, music, etc. In short, look to Mabinogi and add some of the features they have in that game. Doing so would make Tera truly epic.
Lol go play WoW for that carebear stuff. What company in the right mind would waste such a great combat system solely on PvE and cosmetics. You PvE carebears destroy every PvP game that is released and you guys won't stop til all PvP is wiped out of existence
Lol go play *Call of Duty/APB/Battleflied or any other of the myriad of FPS games* for that FFA Gankfest stuff. What company in the right mind would waste such a graphically detailed and expansive world solely on PvP. You PvP gankers destroy every PvE game that is released and you guys won't stop til all PvE is wiped out of existence.
See what I did there?
It can go both ways, can't it?
Anyways, yes I am a carebear and I am not ashamed at all to admit it. Actually, I like that title. It's cute :)
Despite the fact that PvPers use it as some sort of insult.
Anyways, like Niia above says, just because PvP is popular in FPS games doesn't mean that it has to infiltrate every other game genre. As mentioned before, there are many excellent FPS games that PvPers can play without having to come into the MMORPG genre and demand that those games also be turned into FFA PvP/FPS styled gankfests.
Having said that, I am not advocating that Tera not have PvP. In Tera, there is PvP in PvE servers too. Only, it is more controlled and structured, and that is the way that many PvE fans like it. That is the point that many PvEers are making. That fans of both genres should compromise and meet somewhere in the middle. Apparently, judging by the trend of this thread, PvPers don;t even want that. They want it all. But why am i surprised *sigh*
Name one MMO that is successful without PVP. Right you can't, thought so
I reckon the PVP should be the focus, but I'm probably too biased in that regard. In any case, TERA's combat system seems to be built around the idea of PVP so I don't see why i shouldn't be the focus.
Well, I don't know much about MMO's but I think you are not understanding me. I don't want Tera to not have PvP. I am the one who is saying that both can co-exist. The bigger the player base, the better off Tera will be in the future. We just have to work together and support and trust that Tera will make a game that will be enjoyable for both fan bases going forward.
I reckon the PVP should be the focus, but I'm probably too biased in that regard. In any case, TERA's combat system seems to be built around the idea of PVP so I don't see why i shouldn't be the focus.
it is, the system is clearly built for competitve PVP and focuses more on PVP skills rather than PVE gear grind. Lets face it, TERA PvE is your average grind. Lets not forget the political system that has so much PVP potential. Its a joke that people that plays TERA actually want more barbie house and dresses instead of competitive PVP. I'm ashamed to even play with such people. Thank god all they do is stay in town and talk
Pebbles on 05/25/2012, 12:51 PM
Well, I don't know much about MMO's but I think you are not understanding me. I don't want Tera to not have PvP. I am the one who is saying that both can co-exist. The bigger the player base, the better off Tera will be in the future. We just have to work together and support and trust that Tera will make a game that will be enjoyable for both fan bases going forward.
Which is why i asked earlier, you are you even bothering to post on here if only PvP Servers will be affected and PvE and RP servers will not?
You guys really think this game will be around long in the NA market without pvp?
IMO Tera has a decent amount of PvE for the moment. They are sorely lacking PvP, and it's boring the hell out of me. I can only raid & level so long before I just have to quit. Lets face it, there isnt much else to do. There is hardly any Fluff to entertain us. Crafting is practically worthless. Enchanting is just rediculoisly lame. That leaves only trade broker scrawling, and forum trolling. . . and I don't need to tell you how much fun that is.
If I get my alt toons to 60 and there still isnt a meaningful pvp system instituted, I'll be forced to quit.
First of all you are right on for the most part but I would disagree on the PvE aspect. Without a real end game, you know like with actual "raids" in a themed instance, will make this game fall just as fast. Not having PvP will also hurt. Combine the two and well you see how many people are leaving.
But PvP alone won't kill this game. Aion, Warhammer and AoC were all made for more pvp and some pve and how well did they do? No end game == fail game.
Which is why i asked earlier, you are you even bothering to post on here if only PvP Servers will be affected and PvE and RP servers will not?
Well, I thought the question the OP asked in this thread was "should Tera focus on PvP or PvP, or both?"
Sorry but I didn't see anything about it only affecting PvP servers. I dont know, maybe I missed something and if I did, well I stand corrected (not sure how but whatever lol).
Oh, and btw WTFownedU, I am sure that there are more than just two girls playing this game but anyways, I wouldn't take us too lightly if I where you. Because trust me, if the choice was between including some elements of "dress up" and "fluff" to their games in return for the increased revenue that even a portion of a larger female population would bring or adding more PvP features and continue alianating the female player base, then I think we both know which one they would pick, don't we? *smile*
Which is why i asked earlier, you are you even bothering to post on here if only PvP Servers will be affected and PvE and RP servers will not?
Well, I thought the question the OP asked in this thread was "should Tera focus on PvP or PvP, or both?"
Sorry but I didn't see anything about it only affecting PvP servers. I dont know, maybe I missed something and if I did, well I stand corrected (not sure how but whatever lol).
Oh, and btw WTFownedU, I am sure that there are more than just two girls playing this game but anyways, I wouldn't take us too lightly if I where you. Because trust me, if the choice was between including some elements of "dress up" and "fluff" to their games in return for the increased revenue that even a portion of a larger female population would bring or adding more PvP features and continue alianating the female player base, then I think we both know which one they would pick, don't we? *smile*
PvE servers = No PvP, your point on whether the OP included which server is included is invalid. Yes lets include ponies and unicorns so more girls can stand in town and talk when they can already do that with social networking sites. Hmm guess what brings in money... lets see there are E-Sports. I dont remember seeing E-sports about dress-up and barbie house. Then there is the actual competitive PVP that keeps player motivated to continue playing. Your idea of fun is flawed, no one is going to log on the game and put dresses on their characters and call it fun, not only does it waste 90% of the current game content but it destroys whatever potential it had for next gen MMO
PS. Have you even seen the armor or how these female toons look? It's pretty dam obvious that its being aimed at the 18~ years old male gamers. Trust me your type of players interest are the least of the worries for the developers.
I am talking about adding things that will be to the benefit and enjoyment of a broader player base. You know, more about being inclusive as opposed to exclusive.
... and btw, we like the armor too. Maybe for different reasons than the male population, but we still like them (granted some of the styles may be a bit over the top but it is still very beautifully well done).
oh, nevermind ... this is futile.
I am going to excuse myself for now and go play the game ok.
I am talking about adding things that will be to the benefit and enjoyment of a broader player base. You know, more about being inclusive as opposed to exclusive.
oh, nevermind ... this is futile.
I am going to excuse myself for now and go play the game ok.
It wasn't aiming at a broader player base in the first place MMOs would never be about barbie house and dress up. Go back to your PvE and deal with that fact