Stop confusing Hard with Tedious

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Luckily for me I think Tera strikes a good balance with its challange and grind. In other mmos there was no pve content I liked. It was all boring as [filtered] to me. I wouldn't even be playing these things if I hadn't stumbled into the rvr lakes in WAR.

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JesterXL7 on 04/02/2012, 12:41 AM - view
Seriously. People always [filtered] about how things are to "Easy" these days. Oh its too easy to obtain a mount, oh its to easy to do this or that. Many of you are mistaking difficulty with tediousness. Having to farm for hours for gold for a mount isn't hard, its tedious. Having to solo some elite bad [filtered] mother [filtered]in monster that requires me to stay on my toes and play my class like Charlie Daniels plays a fiddle to get my mount is difficult. This game keeps promoting this true action combat, all about skill thing, and nearly every forum post I see tends to agree with it, so I really hope it lives up to it. That said, for the love of video games, quite demanding stupid tedious, grindy crap in place of things that actually require said skill. Also, its a video game, realistically they can only make it so hard, so stop expecting to master video games like you would master foot ball, basket ball, or martial arts.

Sorry this is a little ranty, but Im so sick of hearing this. I just want to play a game that is a hell of a lot of fun, and is a genuine challenge, and not a battle of wills to spend hours doing some monotonous task to get anything worth getting.


I see your rant and understand how mad you must be. However, no Questions are being asked.... So expect the thread to be derailed.
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Yassha on 04/04/2012, 03:59 PM - view
Luckily for me I think Tera strikes a good balance with its challange and grind.


Tera has a good balance in challenge and grind without a doubt.
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Alesiana on 04/04/2012, 04:19 PM - view
Yassha on 04/04/2012, 03:59 PM
Luckily for me I think Tera strikes a good balance with its challange and grind.


Tera has a good balance in challenge and grind without a doubt.

Edited by: DrakeDragon about 1 year ago
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DrakeDragon on 04/04/2012, 04:24 PM - view
Alesiana on 04/04/2012, 04:19 PM
Yassha on 04/04/2012, 03:59 PM
Luckily for me I think Tera strikes a good balance with its challange and grind.


Tera has a good balance in challenge and grind without a doubt.



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Alesiana on 04/04/2012, 04:28 PM - view
DrakeDragon on 04/04/2012, 04:24 PM
Alesiana on 04/04/2012, 04:19 PM
Yassha on 04/04/2012, 03:59 PM
Luckily for me I think Tera strikes a good balance with its challange and grind.


Tera has a good balance in challenge and grind without a doubt.



your link is broken.


looks fine to me.
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I can't stand mindless, repetitive, tedious grinding that rewards players for just putting in the most possible time, with no regard for real skill, quality or fun. Grinding is only challenging because it's so boring it is hard to do without falling asleep. Sure a little time factor can enhance story, sense of progression, learning, etc but it should not go so far as to become boring like most MMOs. For those saying that grinding is the only way to maintain players that is as insulting as having us chase a carrot on a stick. You spend a lot of $ and time being board only motivated by the false hope it will get better.

Real challenge is being confronted with situations you might loose unless you perform well. Maybe you loose a couple times & experiment with different strategies and then come up with something that works. Players should be able to use logic & creativity to come up with unique solutions. So far up to level 20 I have not encountered anything challenging with PVE but I hear BAMs get better later on & there is always PVP.

Tera is advertising that it is a new breed, an "Action MMO" based on real skill, I hope it delivers. There are enough typical MMOs out there. So far I find it fun but hope it gets more interesting in higher levels and that there are more varied things to do.
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Making things "Grindy" is just a poor substitute for actually making content hard.

Real hardcore players want a challenge. Not repetition. Any child with no job living in his mom's basement can do "Tedious" grinding. But not everyone can handle "Hard content".

I think Tera so far has the right idea. Make fighting skill based, fun and innovative, while keeping the tedious boring grinding to a minimum.

Also, the fact that many games don't offer extremely hard PVE content, caused many of us senior players to get addicted to PVP. Devs might fall short of making PVE content that's difficult, but there are always challenges in real players. Humans can be unpredictable, adaptive, and skillful. Many of us see the true challenge in games comes from other humans, not scripted bots. So I normally won't consider playing a game unless it has a serious PVP system.

In any case, most people who talk about challenge are speaking from almost zero experience, most of which never even played EQ. So I take what others have to say very lightly, as chances are they are just kids who think WoW was "Hard" lol.

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The trend of gaming being "easier" may be deeper than you think. First, the gaming community is getting older. I started out with diablo and fallout. I still want to poopsock and play nonstop. I also want to be a productive member of society. Im typing this out at the start of a 14productive hour day as a respiratory therapist. I would love to bw able to endlessly sink hours into the games I play but can't. I think gaming companies pick up on this. The early(er) gaming generation is getting older and l has less time to play; so they male games less grinding. Im in favor.

My wizeass answer is a game should ne fun, not about reward. If you want reward, go back to college or work an extra shift; get something tangible for your time.

I post this from my phone.... if things look crazy, thank autofil.
Edited by: Norie about 1 year ago - Reason: Many typos
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I can't understand why people prefer lengthy, mindless, repetitive grinding. It seems like being addicted to a bad drug. They will delude themselves into thinking it's good for them and that the need it. I hear about extreme cases where people play non stop, not sleeping or eating until they die.
Edited by: Urcheon about 1 year ago