So wait for 1 hour 45 min plus in que and then get kicked cause my item level is only 4 levels above the required dungeon. I'd be more understanding if it was a hard mode perhaps or even if i could get the gear for the higher gear score with a lower level dungeon.. Unfortunately the gear that I need to increase my current score is in the dungeon I keep getting kicked from soooo what to do?

Makes me want to not play your game en masse.

Find yourself a good guild. :)

The "Find a good guild" excuse is weak and invalid.

EME needs to do something about this in the worst way. I feel your pain OP, i've been on the receiving of it more than a dozen times as a Slayer none the less, I know the fights too.

The best feeling is queuing and getting into a group as leader with a scumbag that has kicked you. I'm really not running dungeons I'm kicking scumbags that kicked me, then leveling my alts until the cesspool clears out.

8 out of 10 of them are Lancers, I f'ing love the enjoyment of them asking me for lead and then asking what's the shape of italy (as some other poster scumbag put it) and just kicking to be a [filtered].

EME couldn't possibly care less. they're laughing in korean at us.

Yea, the random kicking for no reason is pretty retarded. I rolled a Lancer as my first char, leveled all the way to 60 with a group so I never noticed it (lucky me). However, on my warrior alt, who is now 60 as well I've been kicked and seen others kicked repeatedly for not being 144 or higher item level for FoK / BT. Those instances are the ones necessary to achieve said item levels, so it doesn't make much sense. Requiring people to have +6 or better enigmatic items is pretty silly. The DPS requirement for BT is easily achievable with 59 quest gear 'as long as people have the correct crystals and some scrolls / CD pots'. I can maybe understand kicking someone if you wiped due to the DPS requirement not being met, but other than that just give it a rest.

I've been told to kick people on my Lancer simply because they aren't running with +6's and usually I just kick those people instead. The only reason I'll kick someone for being undergeared is if, when I ask them if they can at least go purchase specialty store crystals and a few scrolls I get [filtered]ed at. I'm making a reasonable request, in a reasonable manner, in BT only, which does have a DPS check. As long as people aren't complete dicks about meeting that requirement, I'm all for them staying in the group with quest gear.

I don't get how this is EME's fault. It's not their fault these types of people play games too. The only problem at this point are the queue times, but that is not their fault either. The only option would to allow Warrior tanks. But let's face it, when you queue up do you really want a Warrior tanking? Tier Elitists would probably prefer Lancers because they are better. I wouldn't want a fail run after queueing. That's basically your problem at this point. This game is attracting the hardcore players, deal with it or get better. Finding a good guild would solve your problems.

I have one simple question I wanna ask you guys, and im wondering if you can give me a justified answer to it.

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Why do you think that just because you waited 92 minutes in queue, that you're entitled to a group?

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You know who deserves a party? Those who actively advertise on lfg, invite and try to throw a good group together, and then goes in and beats the dungeon.

What did you do? You clicked a button and went half afk for 2 hours hoping some computer can automatically match you with the group you want. Guess what? It's impossible. LFD is a crapshoot, and there's not much EME can do about this. Prevent kicking? What if a player you get into lfd really is just trying to troll you? You're stuck with him now? Is that a better solution?

If you use LFD, you accept that the group you get put in may be full of jerks. That's the price of being lazy and using lfd.

Personally, I think it should just be removed, and we find another way of being able to group cross-server.

Quote: Macronomer on 05/30/2012, 02:50 AM - view

I agree with this. I wouldn't want a warrior tank at all. When i see a warrior i see them as someone you would use in PvP not instances :/ Slayer is just barely cutting it too.

Also agree with Welch

If I'm able to queue for the instance I meet the gear requirements according to En Masse. If I wait 92 min in queue then yes I am certainly entitled to run that instance. If the case happens to be that I am simply not skilled enough to handle instance then go ahead and kick me. That's of course assuming I haven't realized this and taken myself out of the group my self.

My toon is a sorc. The gear I need to get is in Fane of Kaprima and possibly (doubt it) Ebon tower. I'm "geared" enough for hard modes but I'd personally rather be over geared for those so as to make it easier on everyone involved. I need to run the normal versions first though. I can't. I keep getting kicked. It's really not funny/fun.

As far as the get a better guild idea... Thanks I'd love to but I think I'd actually need a better server possibly? There simply isn't a lot of 60's on from what I can tell so far. Within my guild I am one of 3 people to have hit 60 so far out of 140 people. Most are in the 48-54 range. It's the same for a majority of guilds that I have seen on feral valley. I've seen maybe 30-40 level 60 toons so far and most of those are dps. Lancers and usually healers that aren't on alts are rare. LFG chat is aka troll chat on our server as well so good luck getting a group through there.

Normally I'd suggest some idea or fix but I actually don't have one. I used their system. It's being abused by [filtered]s.. mostly from valley of the titans.. So what am I supposed to do about it. EmE's ticket response of sorry k thx bye really didn't help out much.

I'll check out the better guild idea. Not really attached to the one I'm in currently. Something still needs to be done. I know I'm a skilled player. I've died a total of 9 times out of a [filtered]load of other instance runs. It's only gotten bad with the kicking at level 60.

yea happens to my warrior all the time, where is the fun if everything is so elitist, just wondering isnt this where the hard mode is for the elitist player.........

imo, please lower it so the casual players can at least enjoy the game, rather than make some dungeon so retarded hard and in some cases you cannot get the quest done at all.

no wonder there are so many casual lvl60 players leaving the game:p

Quote: Welch on 05/30/2012, 02:54 AM - view

No it's not impossible , WoW does it in 2-15 minutes all the time.
The problem is this Queue system in non RPG game , this is ACTION style mmo , with not enough classes / races. No wonder such issues exist when you have ONE type of tank, this is bad bad bad game design.