If you are fighting a guild, you are fighting THE GUILD. The guild might have level 20s and 30s and go all the way up to 60. WHat am i not supposed to kill someone from an enemy guild because they are lower level? Thank you for pointing out cuthroat harbor has 2 channels. Now when the game releases in full? What then? No locator would be fine if there were NO CHANNELS. Because you could just run through the maps and clear everything in the path.

When the game releases you are going to have dozens of maps with dozens of channels. Factor in that people from either waring guild arent on 24/7 and you have a game were guild pvp isnt viable for any guilds that arent zerg. And all those zerg guilds will STILL get owned by 2-10 man guild who decide to exploit the lack of location tools.

Why not if after a certain time period of no GvG deaths or a low number both guilds have to nominate a flag bearer that isn't safe anywhere. That person from each guild would be locate able and has to be online. If they log out it is transferred to someone else and it counts as a death. Once one of the flag bearers is killed by the opposing guild they get a bonus and the system is again turned off for the time being. The flag bearer is also worth a substantial amount.

It forces you to defend or sacrifice someone. Or even try a quick dive to kill the opposing teams person. The timer would be key to try and even up battles with smaller guilds and zerg guilds. Because the smaller in that situations is a disadvantage but normally they aren't.

This is just a quick 2 second idea. So feel free to tweak or burn it :p

Having a smaller number can easily be an advantage as you mentioned, being able to do hit and run tactics. Its effective and is the advantage a small guild can use against a larger one. You see it used through out history superior numbers shoudn't mean victory and if you create a find person spell thats what you turn it into. So imho there shouldn't be a find person spell, you should have to scout, however when the war does start all members of said warring guilds should be put ito the same channel until end of war. Also would suggest instead of find person skill, a rally call skill, so when a guild member finds an enemy he can cast it and all guild members are alerted to location.

Ill have to agree with some of this. There needs to be some sort of mechanic in place to find enemy guild members. Im in a small guild made of about 20 friends who have been playing together for years, thats how we like it. THe other day some random guild with 8 people declared war on us. At first we were like yaaaay fun time, but then it was over. The score was 0 - 0 and it ended in a draw. The tera maps are huge and on top of that each one has 10 channels... So you cant even effectively scan from map to map because they can be in any place in any channel. Its stupid. I guess its Ok if there are two 300 member guilds fighting because youare bound to run into one or two of the enemy somewhere, but for everyone else its really lame.

Its also HIGHLY exploitable. Say I have a 5 man guild. We are all in a party and see a a couple of people from the number one guild on the server. We quickly declare war on them kill the the two people and then lay low for a while. Congratulations to us we just beat the number 1 guild on the server with 5 people.

You dont even need an exact location, just a channel and general area is fine, something.

The minimap thing is fine but the problem is the range of the minimap is tiny, and i doesent account for channels. So its pretty much the same as nothing.

I do see your point Mr Grumpypants.

Maybe even if they implemented something as simple as showing you 'there are X amount of players for GvG in this zone'

So you could find a zone that had at least 5 or 6 of em, and then ninja stake out the quest hubs to see if they come along

I am not familiar with the GvG system, but from what I can gather, it sounds like there is room for improvement. While I don't necessarily agree that you should be able to port to an opposing guild combatant, there should be some way to find GvG participants.

One recommendation I would have is when you enter a zone, there could be a notification that there are members of the opposing guild in the area. If you were then to look at the channel list, you could see some kind of indicator (red circle?) next to the channel that contains the member(s).

I don't thinking there should be too easy a way to find opposing members, but this still allows you to find them somewhat more easily should they be in the vicinity.

Thoughts?

Also addin a progressive scoring system, if your a lvl 60 going after a lvl 20 and a lvl 57-60 is not in the direct vacintiy you lose points, a lvl 60vs60 gets you 5 points, a lvl 57 vs 60 gets you 5pts plus 3 for lvl disparity, etc.

There were a few thoughts I had on the subject myself. 1) Taking the territory idea to an even further step, letting you see where the enemy guild has people in territories through that signal banner. instead of just being signaled in the territory that your in, you can also open your map and look at the other territories individually, looking at the world map would have a signal next to every province that had an enemy in it, going further down into each province would show in what areas they are, giving a signal banner next to the names of each territory. you still wouldn't know their numbers, or what channel they were in, but at LEAST you'd know where in general your enemies are at.

2) sight map locations similar to how party members work when it comes to the map, this is more for trying to find enemies on a different channel. Say you come walking into a area that had the banner on it, so you know there is an enemy in that territory, you just don't know where, or what channel. As you move along you suddenly see on your minimap (possibly even on the regular map, but at just a slightly longer distance) a signal that an enemy is near by, a dot or some other thing like that that clearly says, oh yea, that's an enemy. You still don't know what channel he's in, but you do at least know that he is there, so now you can chase after him and try and hunt him down through the channels till you find him. (i realize if he really wanted to he could jump the channels as much as you could, but the fact still remains, it be better then nothing at all, and would at least let people know when an enemy was near by, EVEN when he is in another channel.)

3) seer stones could also be an interesting idea, sort of similar to a location spell, but more of a guild useable item, something that any guild can get, but has to work for it. simple use as well, lets you see where all your guild members are, and when in a guild war, can allow you to see where your enemies are. big thing about it, is it is not an all seeing eye or anything, it still wont tell you what channel they are in, but i will give exact position, another big thing is this would be a one person can use at a time item, I would even say that it should be a stationary item somewhere in a guild house, which means that a person could use it to find their enemies, but would have to actually direct their guild members to where they are, again still not showing exact channel, but giving a much more direct location and finder for all to use, and not impossible to get even for a lower, less populated guild.

They are good ideas I swear, so please try and read a little bit into them, again sorry for the wall.

Oh another little idea I thought of, why not tie guild battles, into territory/castle control, this way If two guilds were to say go to war with one another, both guilds would have locations, territories, outposts, etc etc to defend or attack specifically, (would need to have a channel lock for this to work properly).

This way both sides can have a pretty general idea of where the enemy is gonna be coming from, and where to attack/defend, bigger guilds obviously having an advantage with this method though since with their size they might be able to overwhelm and take smaller guilds territories without much fight, but I suppose for defending as a larger guild that holds huge amounts of land would be more difficult even against a smaller guild since you can't be absolutely sure where they will strike from, making them have to spread their defense over their entire land, which it turns weaken them against attacks in certain areas.

Just another little idea I guess.

Okay. I just want to point out that you are able to see the guild you are at war with as the above poster said, their name is red PLUS there is a red arrow above their head. On your mini map (compass) they're indicated as large red circles.

You can see who is in your enemy GvG.. their name is red...

Quote: Hestia on 04/25/2012, 08:27 AM

Okay. I just want to point out that you are able to see the guild you are at war with as the above poster said, their name is red PLUS there is a red arrow above their head. On your mini map (compass) they're indicated as large red circles.

Quote: HaruSoul on 04/25/2012, 08:19 AM

You can see who is in your enemy GvG.. their name is red...

I don't mean just see them on the map. Of course you can [filtered] see them on the map why the [filtered] would I think you couldn't?? I mean look at who is in the guild like you can when you click G on your own guild! Are you guys really that stupid to not understand that???

its comments like these that make me so certain there not going to add in these features and pvp is going to be a [filtered] joke forever.

Are you mad? You seem kind of mad.

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 08:33 AM

Quote: Hestia on 04/25/2012, 08:27 AM

Okay. I just want to point out that you are able to see the guild you are at war with as the above poster said, their name is red PLUS there is a red arrow above their head. On your mini map (compass) they're indicated as large red circles.

Quote: HaruSoul on 04/25/2012, 08:19 AM

You can see who is in your enemy GvG.. their name is red...

I don't mean just see them on the map. Of course you can [filtered] see them on the map why the [filtered] would I think you couldn't?? I mean look at who is in the guild like you can when you click G on your own guild! Are you guys really that stupid to not understand that???

its comments like these that make me so certain there not going to add in these features and pvp is going to be a [filtered] joke forever.

You make no sense.