I am not familiar with the GvG system, but from what I can gather, it sounds like there is room for improvement. While I don't necessarily agree that you should be able to port to an opposing guild combatant, there should be some way to find GvG participants.

One recommendation I would have is when you enter a zone, there could be a notification that there are members of the opposing guild in the area. If you were then to look at the channel list, you could see some kind of indicator (red circle?) next to the channel that contains the member(s).

I don't thinking there should be too easy a way to find opposing members, but this still allows you to find them somewhat more easily should they be in the vicinity.

Thoughts?

Quote: Nothv13 on 04/25/2012, 09:29 AM

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 09:28 AM

Quote: Kittens on 04/25/2012, 09:21 AM

The unpredictability makes GvG more exciting

And it wouldn't really change anything else in the game. It would just make it overall a better game for PvP

The only thing it would do is make camping a guild's lowbies easier and make it easier for big guild to just utterly destroy small guilds. I wouldn't call any of that making it a better game for pvp.

Right now small guilds have a huge advantage over big guilds when it comes to PvP though. This would simply even the playing field a little bit and I would still think small guilds would have a bigger advantage than big guilds simply because they can organize and snipe people better.

Also remember this would only apply to GvG mode.

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 09:37 AM

Quote: Nothv13 on 04/25/2012, 09:29 AM

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 09:28 AM

Quote: Kittens on 04/25/2012, 09:21 AM

The unpredictability makes GvG more exciting

And it wouldn't really change anything else in the game. It would just make it overall a better game for PvP

The only thing it would do is make camping a guild's lowbies easier and make it easier for big guild to just utterly destroy small guilds. I wouldn't call any of that making it a better game for pvp.

Right now small guilds have a huge advantage over big guilds when it comes to PvP though. This would simply even the playing field a little bit and I would still think small guilds would have a bigger advantage than big guilds simply because they can organize and snipe people better.

Also remember this would only apply to GvG mode.

How do small guild have huge advantage? Its a catch 22, larger guild have more scouts, can travel in larger groups and therefore if they come across the enemy they are liekly to be able to use numbers to their advantage. However the advantages of a small guild is just that small so the enemy has to scout for you more so than you have to scout for them, you have more of a chance running into them, then they you, but are likely in larger groups. Yet unlike them you can move as a whole guild with better percision and unity than a larger one, so you can attack a party then dissappear and attack again. As said before only thing ot correct system is lock warring guilds to same channel and create a rally call skill. So if a larger guild is getting harrased by the smaller one effectively, they will need to use a tactic like a lure and ambush where they figure out the general are they like to attack send a small scouting party in to draw them out then the rest of the army descends upon the small guild. Its called strategy and tactics, if you create a find person/guild roster crap you take all of that away. Its an open world PVP for a reason, keep it that way and don't hamper gvg by creating "cheats" or making it uber easy, instead refine it so the aforementioned concepts can better created.

Also addin a progressive scoring system, if your a lvl 60 going after a lvl 20 and a lvl 57-60 is not in the direct vacintiy you lose points, a lvl 60vs60 gets you 5 points, a lvl 57 vs 60 gets you 5pts plus 3 for lvl disparity, etc.

Quote: Valmier on 04/25/2012, 10:02 AM

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 09:37 AM

Quote: Nothv13 on 04/25/2012, 09:29 AM

Quote: Fluorescent on 04/25/2012, 09:28 AM

Quote: Kittens on 04/25/2012, 09:21 AM

The unpredictability makes GvG more exciting

And it wouldn't really change anything else in the game. It would just make it overall a better game for PvP

The only thing it would do is make camping a guild's lowbies easier and make it easier for big guild to just utterly destroy small guilds. I wouldn't call any of that making it a better game for pvp.

Right now small guilds have a huge advantage over big guilds when it comes to PvP though. This would simply even the playing field a little bit and I would still think small guilds would have a bigger advantage than big guilds simply because they can organize and snipe people better.

Also remember this would only apply to GvG mode.

How do small guild have huge advantage? Its a catch 22, larger guild have more scouts, can travel in larger groups and therefore if they come across the enemy they are liekly to be able to use numbers to their advantage. However the advantages of a small guild is just that small so the enemy has to scout for you more so than you have to scout for them, you have more of a chance running into them, then they you, but are likely in larger groups. Yet unlike them you can move as a whole guild with better percision and unity than a larger one, so you can attack a party then dissappear and attack again. As said before only thing ot correct system is lock warring guilds to same channel and create a rally call skill. So if a larger guild is getting harrased by the smaller one effectively, they will need to use a tactic like a lure and ambush where they figure out the general are they like to attack send a small scouting party in to draw them out then the rest of the army descends upon the small guild. Its called strategy and tactics, if you create a find person/guild roster crap you take all of that away. Its an open world PVP for a reason, keep it that way and don't hamper gvg by creating "cheats" or making it uber easy, instead refine it so the aforementioned concepts can better created.

Also addin a progressive scoring system, if your a lvl 60 going after a lvl 20 and a lvl 57-60 is not in the direct vacintiy you lose points, a lvl 60vs60 gets you 5 points, a lvl 57 vs 60 gets you 5pts plus 3 for lvl disparity, etc.

I agree with this, but right now I think small guilds have a bigger advantage because bigger guilds aren't well organized yet and small guilds can just snipe one person and then get out and sit in a sz until the war is up. But I agree once the game comes out and the bigger guilds get more organized it will even out.

All I agree completely with the progressive scoring system.

I have not gotten to play much with GvG, however in regaurd to the outlaw system this old school open world PvP could use a little tweaking.

Right now its a little silly that after level 11 a cap level can basicly sit on the bridge in lumber town or other quest hub and camp new players by one hitting them. I personaly don't approve of people doing that but the problem is when someone trys to stop them they simply just walk into town. SAFE.

If your an outlaw, I respect that, but safe zone hugging needs to be addressed in two ways. Either there needs to be guards that will attack aggressive characters or once you have engaged in PvP you are not protected by the safe zone for 1 minute.

If your going to pvp, go pvp. go hunt, but run the risk of being hunted yourself as the game intended. there is no reason in the year 2012 that we still have to deal with safe zone hugging for griefers.