Few things.

It wasn't just the Elin. They were the poster child (pun intended?) for what happened, but the other races were subjected to it in more subtle ways.

The 'Easternization' argument is an interesting one, I guess? I don't know what it means to them culturally, if it has far more ramifications than skimpy clothing does in America (?), but I'm betting there's an apples/oranges in there somewhere.

The Europe one was interesting, when that story came out a week or so ago, where their 'thing' is the gore. Reminds me a bit of "This Film Is Not Yet Rated", especially for us and the MPAA.

I don't understand why it isn't addressed as 'options and choice'.

If we're supposed to be so epicly tolerant, the country of all stray dogs and all dogs are welcome, why aren't we given options and choices?

If you don't want to wear those things, then you should have options not to wear them. I should have the choice to wear them. This should never end in someone's choices and options coming at the expense of someone else's options and choices being taken away.

Now, obviously we're not talking about murder. Someone would argue "but we have to take away your choice to murder because that infringes on my choice to live". Well....yes, yes it does, and yes, that makes sense.

We're talking about a game. Harmless, fun, artful little game.

It just seems to me that when this 'westernization' happens, it's always about one thing. The female form. And it never ends up being about choice. It ends up being about agenda. It gets dressed up (pun intended) in other arguments, but it always seems to come back to that one thing. It's not about choice and options. It's about specifically wanting to take away those options and choices, and that seems wrong to me.

With respect to 'westernization'. Tell me how my choices and options would have negatively impacted you? Take a look at Madonna in the early 80s. Should we have 'westernized' that and not allow her to dress like that so you didn't have to look at it? It wasn't handled that way, was it? That would have been insane, right? To take away her choices and options like that?

Why is it ok to do that in a video game? Are MMOs a refuge for people to enforce their agenda when they couldn't in the real world? Is it a training ground to work on your lobbying skills before you take it to the real world? I hope not. That would be sad indeed.

MMOs used to be a place where you could come to escape reality, and not care about how crazy your country is and get away from everyone's agenda and the person you were adventuring with could be in France.

Now, we are all locked back in our little corners of the world, with our own 'versions' of the game, subject to many of the agendas that propagate each of our corners.

Yay globalization? :(

Quote: tizubythefizo on 05/03/2012, 12:28 AM - view


I'm not expected to adhere to [filtered], so go %$#@ off.

Want an example of the biggest psychological problem that is commonly accepted in North America? You eat meat right? So then, how come you don't kill your own animals?

I therefore ask you to slaughter your own animals before you eat meat, because it's only logical that you should be able to slit the cows throat, chop off the chickens head or stab the pig in the neck, if you eat meat. Ask 95% of meat eaters in the United States to slaughter their own animals before they eat meat, and what will they say? "No" of course.

That's a big contradictory problem, and it's a psychological problem as well. You know what it's called?

It's called "Cognitive Dissonance". Conflicting ideas of an unresolved nature.


And just because I live in the western world, doesn't mean I agree with anything that goes on here. It's quite childish and disgustingly irrational most of the time.

Well written post, Kiregean. :) I agree with what you said, despite some others trying to pseudo-troll you in a sophisticated manner.

If anything, they ought to include an uncensored version (or an option to uncensor it), for those wanting the experience that the artist originally intended to give. I understand that the skimpy outfits may not appeal to a lot of players, so I can understand the censoring, but I see it from both sides.

Bottom Line, The product will not be changed back to original form, because then the censorship crowd cancel their subscriptions.

But why Not offer the original versions through a clint side patch? that will then show the ones that want it the original texture? And maybe the player then can toggle whether they want their avatar to display THOSE original textures, or the censored ones?

I think the last pouint would be a necessity. No one wants anyone looking at their nipples against their wishes just because they can get a patch for the game.

Lastly, someone mentioned the censored textures were subpar. I do agree 100 % that if censored textures are here to stay, they should work on them so that they are of equal quality to the originals... perhaps a patch after they fix the crazy word filter.. it's dumb that I cannot say looks like....

Bottom Line, The product will not be changed back to original form, because then the censorship crowd cancel their subscriptions.

But why Not offer the original versions through a clint side patch? that will then show the ones that want it the original texture? And maybe the player then can toggle whether they want their avatar to display THOSE original textures, or the censored ones?

I think the last pouint would be a necessity. No one wants anyone looking at their nipples against their wishes just because they can get a patch for the game.

Lastly, someone mentioned the censored textures were subpar. I do agree 100 % that if censored textures are here to stay, they should work on them so that they are of equal quality to the originals... perhaps a patch after they fix the crazy word filter.. it's dumb that I cannot say looks like....


Sorry for double Post.... the servers Kicked me off Just as I hit "post" I thought it had Not gone through.....

I still don't get why some people are so uptight about even partial nudity in a video game.
I really couldn't have cared less.

For a few years now, people have been running around topless in Age of Conan (which is rated "M").
The sky didn't fall.
The world didn't end.
Everyones' lives went on normally.
Maybe some were even better, lol
If anyone really noticed at all.

*shrugs*

Can we please stop talking about how other races got censored...They DID NOT get censored. someone re skinned the texture and built a MOD for nudity in TERA. We've already Debugged the whole conspiracy Censorship of the races. It was proven long ago in another thread that the only thing that got changed - was the Elin.

It is also the ONLY thing they are going to change. Deal with it.

So now I know I need to play kTera so I can Fap while playing. Thanks guys! You have been a real help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, OP and the derp responding to him.

You are both slow. Arguing over rhetoric and the way the OP wrote his initial statement proves you both are children. None of the comments were constructive until about page 11/13 which is ridiculous.

Quote: Kiregean on 05/02/2012, 11:12 PM - view
One. Stretching your vocabulary and posting overly long-winded arguments does not make you seem more intelligent nor does it lend you credibility. In fact it only comes off as desperate.

Two. Using the "censorship of art" argument is like using the age old asian, "Sure, I drew a naked nine yea old but she's, 3000 years old because I say so!" You still drew a naked 9 year old. The excuse didnt work twenty years ago and it doesnt work now.

Third. The censorship of art argument is invalid in the first place. Everything is considered art to someone, including murder, and all profound things like pedos. This is why we have censorship at all. The same reason we have laws. So the rest of us don't have to deal with your issues. You want nipples? Internets full of porn. I for one am glad I can play this game around family and not be embarrassed. Get over it, mate. Suck it.

Yeah, it's fine the way it is..."PUT BACK TEH PUBES!!" give me a break omg.